Deca and sustanon250 cycle

kkx250
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11 Jan 2012 15:23 #87847 by kkx250

Deca and sustanon250 cycle was created by kkx250

Planning to do above cycle. Any suggestions on amount to inject per week? This would be my second cycle. First one being test cyp with dbol frontload. 500mg a week on test and 40mg dbol for 4 weeks.40 yrs old had reasonable gains on first cycle with no to little side affects.

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crawler
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11 Jan 2012 15:25 #87850 by crawler

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Sust 500 - 750mg
Deca 400 - 600mg

What brand you running?

How many calories you consuming?

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kkx250
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11 Jan 2012 15:33 #87855 by kkx250

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Pgw. Ten week cycle and preload with dbol?

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STUARTF
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11 Jan 2012 16:22 #87858 by STUARTF

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kkx250 what are your goals from the cycle and how did you find the last cycle of 500mg test/wk?

If you want significantly larger gains to your previous cycle then go with crawlers option. If not then a good start would be sust250 @ 500mg/wk and the deca @ 400mg/wk with a d-bol frontload @ 40mg/wk for 4 weeks. Always make sure your Deca dosage is less than your test dosage. Also think about running it for at least 12 weeks as deca takes long to kick in. Anti-prolactin drugs such as Cabaser should also be considered if you choose a high Deca dosage.

You will also need a proper PCT and would recommend including clomid/nolva/hcg/aromasin (full doctari pct) especially as you are now 40yrs old and the body needs the benefits of all these PCT compounds to allow it to recover adequately.

"Do or do not, there is no try" - Yoda
"It's simple, if it jiggles, it's fat."- Arnold Schwarzenegger

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jakes
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11 Jan 2012 16:24 #87859 by jakes

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I think you are making a mistake using deca. Testosterone is a pretty powerful drug already. 10weeks isn't long enough to run deca. Just use test @ a dose of 600mg-750mg for 12 weeks and frontload with 50mg dbol for the first 4.

Its not worth shutting yourself down that hard only for a second cycle. You will grow nicely on test alone...
Adding more compounds to a stack does not mean better gains.

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i.am.min
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11 Jan 2012 20:23 #87891 by i.am.min

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@jakes and stuart- what about 300mg a week of nandro-prop? No long ester like deca and hopefully more solid gains in terms of cycle and less sides... Jus an idea:)

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STUARTF
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11 Jan 2012 21:31 #87899 by STUARTF

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I tend to agree with Jakes. Deca is a 19-nor which comes with its own set of prolactin side-effects. I'm not a Deca fan at all and I would always opt for Equi rather. The Deca or Equi question has been discussed numerous times before and the bottom line is that Deca will give better mass gains with more water weight compared to the solid leaner gains from Equi. It really all depends on what is the desired goal of the cycle. A 750mg test cycle will also give solid gains with a very reasonable price tag.

@i.am.min: Yes NPP is a fantastic steroid especially for quick gains and keeping water low. Great for purposes of cutting and ideal for a pre-contest stack. It is however still a nandrolone and will come with the 19-nor side effects at high doses. It would be a good option to consider over deca IMO but as Jakes mentioned for a second cycle one may want to keep it simple with a mod high test cycle.

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"It's simple, if it jiggles, it's fat."- Arnold Schwarzenegger

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kkx250
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12 Jan 2012 12:52 #87977 by kkx250

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Thanks for the excellent advice, really appreciate it.

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johann83
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20 Jan 2012 07:01 #89253 by johann83

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Hi guys,I am 28years old,98kg,+-13%bf and been training for four years now.I have used roids and just need some advice on the following cycle,I really want to pick up some size,and don't care about water too much.

Week1-6
Deca 100:400mg per week
Sustanon 250:1000mg per week
Anaps:2each day for first four weeks.

Week6-12
Deca 100:400mg per week
Testoviron 250:1000mg per week

I will also run a decent PCT.
Would anyone advice something else for
Week6-12 cause I allready started with the Sustanon,Deca,Anaps.I lost 3kg's in my first week,don't know why.

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jakes
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20 Jan 2012 07:20 #89254 by jakes

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Nice cycle.

You just lost water that was caused by the aboms, nothing to worry about.

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johann83
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20 Jan 2012 10:22 #89289 by johann83

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What would you guys say is the best gear for this cycle,Organon Sus250,Deca100 or Axio Sustaplex325,Decaplex300?

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jakes
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20 Jan 2012 10:26 #89290 by jakes

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PGW deca - 350mg per ml. Second choice would be organon then axio.

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johann83
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20 Jan 2012 10:31 #89293 by johann83

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Thanks a lot for the reply,I got Organon on hand so I will use it,just heard from the guys that I should take Axio.

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johann83
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23 Jan 2012 15:13 #89643 by johann83

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What do you guys think?Should I swop the Sustanon for Test Enanthate after 6weeks and run that for another 6weeks,or should I just stay on the Sustanon for the full 12weeks,I don't care much about water at this stage,just want size and strength.

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johann83
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23 Jan 2012 16:35 #89671 by johann83

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Any advise anyone?

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johann83
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23 Jan 2012 16:35 #89672 by johann83

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Any advise anyone?

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IronHeart
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23 Jan 2012 16:41 #89674 by IronHeart

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Stick to one substance.

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johann83
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23 Jan 2012 16:45 #89675 by johann83

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Mind me for asking but why would you say that.Sustanon is only a combination,but also have enanthate in?I wanted to run the Sust in the beginning just to jump start my cycle with the prop,after 6weeks the test levels should be ok,that's why I figured taking Enanthate?Please correct me if I am wrong.

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jakes
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23 Jan 2012 17:35 - 23 Jan 2012 17:37 #89677 by jakes

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Dude let's say you pin 2ml's. That would only give you 80mg test prop - which is nothing. You won't see ANY results on that.

I don't know why people always want to kickstart their cycles. The gains are frecken water anyway if you use dbol - its a temporary ego boost.

Pin the sust till its done and then switch to enanthant, if you run the cycle for 12 weeks you don't have to kickstart it.

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johann83
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23 Jan 2012 19:12 #89681 by johann83

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Thanks for the great advice Jakes,will do that.Hahaha I know the water is just a ego boost,but let's face it if you look bigger your mind does make you feel more positive and I think that mind set does play a big role.But point taken,in the end we want it too stay and not evaporate hahaha.

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jakes
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23 Jan 2012 19:35 #89686 by jakes

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If you want to look big quickly eat 600g carbs and a shitload of salt. You'll be bloated in no time lol.

The test will kick in nicely in 4weeks, just pretend you aren't injecting till then bud. Haha

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johann83
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23 Jan 2012 19:42 #89687 by johann83

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Hahaha true,will let you know how it goes,in my 3ed week now,starting weight 98kg bf12% 1.83m.Hoping too end at bout 105kg after 12weeks.

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jakes
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23 Jan 2012 19:58 #89688 by jakes

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Bro you should up the dose. Do things properly. Third cycle... Your allowed to pin 1.5g easily, even if its just test. Don't waste your time get proper gains. As soon as you max out on gear you can start with IGF and GH

. Be clever, work smarter not harder. If you can afford it, bump up the test dose to 1.5g. Or make it 750mg and add 150mg npp eod.

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johann83
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23 Jan 2012 20:09 #89689 by johann83

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Will up the dose on the enanthate on week6 too 1.5g per week,I don't really wanna take the deca above 500mg per week,at this stage I am pinning eod.Will up the Naps form this week too 150mg a day,hahaha I am stuck with 3sealed bottles of the stuff,just a bit sceptic about the acne,I struggle a lot with it on my chest.But I guess that's the biggest price too pay,and nothing that 3months Accutane can't fix.Or do you have some advice for me to use while running my cycle?

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VonD
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23 Jan 2012 20:47 #89692 by VonD

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Just watch out for the anaps at those dosages.

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