Blending gear for "better" results

No prizes for guessing the source, but what do you all think?

Blending Test Cypionate and Propionate

This blend is gives good building and strength qualities and is fast acting while there is reduced water and fat retention.

It is ideal for people that want to get better quality muscle on the building phase with a small sacrifice in the amount of size gained. A good alternative to Depotrone, Sus and Testoviron. More advanced users can fine tune the blend depending on their need and time from competition.

Basic cycle:
Blend 0.5ml Cypionate with 1ml Test propionate. Inject blend every 5-7 days. Cycle length is typically 8-10 weeks.

Hi Oupiel !
What is your ultimate aim: kind of a quality bulk ?
How do you explain your idea, that cyp/prop for 8-10 wks yields better quality than any other test cycle ?
What is your dosage ? Cyp 0.5 ml = 150mg / prop 1ml = 100mg ?

Why injecting prop only every 5-7 days ?

If I would have cyp and porp handy planning to cycle 10wks would do following:
first 3 wks: 50mg prop ed, 300mg cyp e5d
4-8 wks: 300mg cyp e5d
9-11 wks: 50mg prop eod
PCT

P.S. Do you think cyp is more potent than enanthate ? Why ?

Regards,Dinamo

I just copied & past the stuff from another site.
After more research I discovered Nomad Nomaviron 300 i.e. test Prop @ 50mg + test En @ 250mg.

The idea is less water retention & more quality gains.

It would be cheaper to blend PGW Test Prop & Enanthate.
Could you just mix the vials or would you need to mix each jab individually?

What interests me is the low water / quality gains.

What should I add to this?
Equipoise?
Tren? Ace or Enanthate?
Something else?

What dose would you recomend?

I'm not to sure that it will work properly if you only inject once a week. I would guess that it will work well if you use it for a short cycle(like the one's of MXT) where you inject EOD for the first 3 weeks and then use only orals or short acting substances untill the enanthate or cypionate has worked itself out. Then you can start an immidiate PCT.

If you do it this way your hormone levels will be more stable, while making good use of the fast acting properties of testprop.

Agreed, I don't think its is efficient use of the particular esters, and will lead to more unstable drug levels which could agonise side effects

Maybe I didn't express myself very well. What I'm trying to ask is as follows:

1. Nomaviron 300 @ 540mg/week spread evenly over 3 jabs per week.
This would help maintain stable blood levels & is at a reasonable dose.

OR

2. PGW Test En @ 600mg/week spread evenly over 2 jabs per week.

I'd be looking to stack this with Equipoise or similar over 10 - 12 weeks.

Acording to the info I pasted in the first post, option 1 will result in less water retention.

Although as pointed out it may be cheaper to just blend PGW Test Prop & Enanthate.

So your looking at injecting 540mg per week of a prop-testen combo using EOD injections, or 600mg testen injecting twice per week?
Personally I would go for option two because there are less jabs. You could stack the testen with a non-aromatizable steroid to minimize water retention and maximise quality. In addition you could use an AI.
Test prop still aromatizes as much as a long ester test (test is test) however it allows for better control of water retention because of the shorter half life. If kept at stable drug levels over 8 weeks test prop will yield the same water retention as cyp or testen. Also I'm not sure if swapping out 50mg testen for test prop really has much effect (although I do not have real world experience with this combo). Indeed the quick acting prop will make you notice gains from the beginning of the cycle, and there is slightly more free test in 50mg prop than 50mg testen. But I don't think the two cycles are much different and I think it goes done to your choice of preferred compound.

What Inja said.....

IMHO TEST is TEST. The esters attached to the Testosterone hormone only have an effect on the half life of the hormone+ester which determinses the level of active hormone in the blood. As Inja said the prop clears out alot quicker so managing the water retention and estrogen induced fat deposits is alot easier.

I would rather opt for the longer ester, less jabs, and use a decent AI to manage estrogen.

Inja wrote:

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Test prop still aromatizes as much as a long ester test (test is test) however it allows for better control of water retention because of the shorter half life. If kept at stable drug levels over 8 weeks test prop will yield the same water retention as cyp or testen....

Good points, makes sense. I appreciate the thought you gave this. Cheers.
Back to a simple Testen stack with Equi.

would dinamo's cycle idea of switching from enthanate 2/3rds of the cycle to prop and ending the last few weeks on prop help for a faster recovery during pct?

DKSA wrote:

would dinamo's cycle idea of switching from enthanate 2/3rds of the cycle to prop and ending the last few weeks on prop help for a faster recovery during pct?

IMO the only reason it helps for a faster recovery in PCT is that the hormones half life clears alot faster than eg Test Enanthate... this allows you to start PCT sooner. In fact I think you could switch to Prop for only the last 2 weeks of cycle and get the same effect.

Agreed, I do now guys on other boards that run prop, dbol, or winnie in the last two weeks while there long esters clear. However I view this from a different perspective than guys on this forum do.

In my choice of wording I don't see it as swapping out to short esters. I was planning to do it in the last to weeks of my next cycle but as means of keeping drug levels up while long esters clear. Its a way of keeping that drive.

I don't really see how it helps with PCT. Drug levels are not suboptimal in the two weeks one waits for long esters to clear, so the body does not become catabolic. Also once HCG is started in a good PCT protocol the testes begin firing quickly, and endogenous test levels rise.
I suppose theres a small chance really large guys (Mr.O) may become catabolic in those two weeks but they use growth for this.