Stuck between 2 cycles?

I am trying to decide which of the following 2 cycles to do and am not sure which will deliver the best results in terms of lean muscle:

Option 1:
6 weeks:
3x PGW anavar per day plus
500mg testen per week

Option 2:
8 weeks:
Front load 700mg eq for 2 weeks and then run at 350mg per week
Front load 600mg testen for 2 weeks and then run at 300mg per week
Dianabol at 35mg per day for first 2 weeks
Winny at 50mg per day for last 6 weeks

What do you guys "in the know" think?

You gain more muscle off the second cycle, and if you keep diet clean and run an AI all these gains will be pretty lean.

The first cycle is easier to run for lean gains but there is no reason why gains from cycle 2 can't be just as lean...

hot shot,why not look at running 6 weeks of prop,masteron and anavar...should give u some kick ass gains and fat burning at the same time

I know this is more my opinion but is this a lean mass bulking cycle, or a cutting cycle with the hope of some lean mass gains.
For bulking cycles I use long esters like EQ and test cycles regardless if this is a lean mass or dirty bulk.
For cutting cycles I like short ester cycles like prop/mast/var would be, or maybe prop/trenA/winnie.

Just gives me like a little niche for different compounds.

My aim at the moment is to pick up about 4-5 kgs. My bodyfat is below 10% at the moment so I am not necessarily trying to cut. I would like to pick up a few kgs of decent muscle while trying to maintain a good bodyfat %.

I was quite happy with my original choice of var and testen but there has been quite a delay with the var and that made me look at other options. After some thought, it looks like option 2 might actually be the best for what i am trying to achieve. My diet is very clean so I am sure I will be able to maintain a good condition while getting some quality gains.

Do you think the second option looks ok in terms of quantities for me considering I am at 93kgs at the moment?

Hotshot check out "my cycle thread" in the cycle discussion. I did the same cycle as you planning but only used win tabs at the end.
You'll probably get a good few more kg's running the inj. win.

Your averaging about 1gram of gear a week so thats certainly good enough to grow.
If water does become a problem when trying to keep lean you could run an AI.
As an afterthought after looking at cycle two again I thought I should mention that even given the frontload EQ will still leach into the system slower because of the longer half life, so running it eight weeks is not ideal because of delayed gains. Also this longer half life is why the test is usually run two weeks longer than EQ.
Perhaps you might consider a Tren E / Test stack instead of the EQ? Tren is really the master of lean mass. Sorry to make this more complicated for you.

Also, on the point Novice made you are injecting the winnie right? Something I'm still going to look into so can't comment yet, but a question occurred to me the other night about the toxicity of winnie whether oral or injectable. Reason I'm curious is its still the same alkylation modification, not an esterification. So although injecting avoids the extra pass through the liver I think winnie might still be slightly more 'hepatoxic' because its harder to metabolise.
For now just make sure you have adequate liver support. Good luck bro.

for lean mass...
i would say

testen - 10 weeks
tren - +- 6 weeks
winny - +-6 weeks

anavar is AMAZING...but i think in this circumstance at a cost:gain;cyle length ratio winny is suited better for this cycle.

throw some proviron in and you going to be harder than steel, some dbol for the first week and a bit would be a great kickstarter..as i would think the winny and tren would be used from the 2/4 or 3/4 of the cycle to the end...
so basically the 2nd one but replace equi with tren..and also i wouldnt run less than 500mg test a week here..

guys correct me if i am talking trash

If using TrenE I would run it for full cycle duration. If its TrenA I would keep the cycle to six weeks and swap the testen to prop.

I think for this cyle TestEn TrenE would be best.

I have just got the notification that the order I placed for var and testen was shipped so I was unable to change it in time. Oh well, I guess I'll be going with option 1. One of the reasons I thought of changing was the delay in getting anavar but it's on its way now. Thanks for all the advice though, it will definitely help for future cycles. Much appreciated!

Sure bro. Advice for AI and diet still stands.

Don't forget to report back on PGW var!

Inja, we discussed women using var a little while ago. My wife will be starting on 10mg Nomad var per day from tomorrow and then going up to 20mg per day if required. Will it be necessary for her to do pct afterwards?

Hey bro. Split the var tabs into morning and afternoon doses (5mg 2 x per day)

Womens hormones are so messed up nobody has a real PCT strategy on the net for them. Unfortunately I'm not an endocrinologist so I don't have one either, but I will start looking into it sometime this year (I'll probably only be much wiser after my gf's first cycle too so don't worry, your not a guinea pig).

My gf uses the pill, so I was thinking of just keeping her on it as this may provide some hormonal input post cycle. Effectively the pill shuts down a womens hormones to some degree, so that it can regulate their cycle for them. This is the best I can do for now and I hope it will go some way to normalising her sooner post cycle.

Im on PGW Anavar (20mg - 30mg) , used the nomad one as well (10mg)

The nice thing about the smaller 10mg pills is for a women you can break them up even more if you want... PGW gear is in capsule form... and its larger doses 20-30mg which is a bit much for a women or so i read... so i would suggest you stick with the 10mg.

Ever thought of giving your woman Primo. Primo is just as good as var also a quality drug.