Test/NPP

DKSA
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27 Jan 2012 03:11 #89985 by DKSA

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Hi all,

started enanthate last week, in my 2nd week now. 600mg per week. I am pretty keen to add in NPP at 450mg a week /1ml E3D..
i am just worried about progesterone gyno and side effects as i have no caber or dostinex...will only have Letro and Kessar on hand.
also keen too add some dbol at 40mg/day from this coming week for 5 weeks. Anyone had any progesterone experiences with NPP?

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jackrabbit1
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27 Jan 2012 08:37 #89994 by jackrabbit1

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I had no problems at all. I also dont think its likely at that dose.
Cabaser is really not all that expensive. I had Parlodel on hand for previous cycles and have to throw the stuff away cause it has expired. So if your order gets processed quickly just order it when you notice the puffiness appearing.
If you are using Letro already chances are even less.

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MATTCAT
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27 Jan 2012 09:30 #90003 by MATTCAT

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Hey man

im currently on my 3rd week of Testen (900mg a week) NPP (450mg a week)

No progesterone gyno side effects at all.

Really happy with my Post Xmas gains - am up from 103kg to a solid hard 109kg

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SLEON
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27 Jan 2012 11:18 #90007 by SLEON

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I really like npp , did a cycle with it and testen last year and really loved the gains i made , and it was lean gains

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DKSA
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27 Jan 2012 13:42 #90039 by DKSA

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@jackrabbit1
i havent started the letro yet, wasnt planning on running it throughout cycle, just incase if sides/gyno pop up! but i am thinking when i add the dbol in it woulod probably be wise to run a very little letro for the duration of the dbol? or should i continue to wait it out?

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jackrabbit1
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27 Jan 2012 13:46 #90041 by jackrabbit1

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Letro takes a while to reach peak levels.
My experience though was different - 3-4 days and my dick went pap!
Start the Letro at a lowwwwwww dose 2 weeks before starting the dbol.
You never know what throwing dbol into the mix might do.

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Inja
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27 Jan 2012 16:19 #90070 by Inja

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Dbol, Test, Deca
There is a reason that this stack has earned itself the name 'The Bread and Butter Cycle' on many boards. It's a classic mass gainer. If you are gyno prone (which you should know from previous cycles) then I would control estrogen on this cycle. Limiting estrogen will prevent gyno. However if you don't have much trouble with boobies then just have anti-Es on hand and enjoy the ride.

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

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DKSA
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27 Jan 2012 17:48 #90076 by DKSA

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that is the thing, i have never run test with no AI before...so this is new grounds for me, i have run test at 500-700mg/wk and thrown in dbol ranging from 30-40mg a day but i ran proviron at 50mg ed and then also another time at 50mg eod and had no gyno issues..

sunday will be my 5th shot of enanthate, i started my dbol today so it will be effective for this coming week.

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Inja
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28 Jan 2012 23:15 #90208 by Inja

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To clarify you run these cycles With or without the AI?

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DKSA
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29 Jan 2012 00:59 #90231 by DKSA

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i ran them with proviron- not really an AI I know, sometimes 50mg/ed, sometimes 50mg/eod
tomorrow will be the beginning of my 3rd week of enanthate and 3rd day of dbol.

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David.biohazard
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29 Jan 2012 09:01 #90239 by David.biohazard

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Howzit bud, I ran this cycle at 600 enanthate and 300 npp and have not experienced any prolactin or gyno sides. Ran letro at 0.3 eod and had no issues and gains were still awesome. Specific reason you want to run dbol now?

That is what makes a bodybuilder a true bodybuilder, and that is to be simply.....

PURELY DIFFERENT FROM THE REST

LIVE IT OR LEAVE IT!

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Inja
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30 Jan 2012 17:12 #90449 by Inja

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So your going from 500-700 mg to 1050 mg a week. This is a sizable dose increase, and you wont know if sides will start to come. I'm also curious as to the Dbol? More strength and pump? I'm inclined to agree with the biologically hazardous Dave and say save the Dbol for your next kicker, just add the NPP in.

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DKSA
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18 Feb 2012 22:41 #93522 by DKSA

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inja, am running 750mg enanthate a week (bumped up from 600mg from week 3) am currently in week 5, sunday will be my 11th shot of test. I have dropped the dbol.
I decided to test the waters and went tren enanthate over the NPP, took first shot of tren last week thursday 9th, sunday will be my 4th shot of tren, shooting 300mg/wk. I have been using 0.3mg Letro E3D since the start of feb(week3).

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Empire
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18 Feb 2012 22:48 #93523 by Empire

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Going for tren over npp was like going for morphine instead of panado for a headache...

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DKSA
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21 Feb 2012 23:52 #93985 by DKSA

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DJ wrote: Going for tren over npp was like going for morphine instead of panado for a headache...

:lol: :woohoo:

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gab
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22 Feb 2012 09:10 #94006 by gab

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hope you have the correct pct now that you opted for tren :unsure:

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DKSA
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22 Feb 2012 22:45 #94246 by DKSA

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i hope so too! going to have to construct it properly.
i have on hand, hcg - which i want to start towards the end of the cycle before pct begins. Then have clomid, kessar and aromasin and still need to get ovidrel. I am sure i have read before about not using tamoxifen in ones pct after 19-nor use due to worsening the progesterone effects? so i guess it would be best to get some cabeser and nail any progesterone buildup before starting pct so that i can use kessar in my pct?

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