INJECTING

I`m on my first cycle with deca and sustanon, the first 2 week I could not sit from the pain by the injections(250 sustenon 200 deca). last night I injected (500 sustanon 300 deca) again and this time more than the previous two times and I feel nothing today but there was a lot of blood.
Is it possible that the juice came out with the blood.

nope as long as u used a long needle no porblems.[no insulin needles] Make sure everything is sterile when you inject and if possible get someone else to do it

i had a huge problem with cypionate from nomad, in the past, i inject very sterile, alchol swap 2 needels etc, i have injected mil times, but with 2 bottels of cyp, the site become swollen and red every time, got antibiotics 3 times!! other times i did not go to the docter, and i went away, it was very strange.

About injection pain. This is from Prisoner on T-Nation forum.
Its a bit long, but could save your arse;-)(File Removed)

Very cool read, nice one

Solid advice, thanks

I also experienced the innitial pain for a few days after the first few jabs, but it seems to get more tollerable now. (PGW Test Prop)....Winstrol stays a bitch though

@ MARTIN: just re-read your post, 500mg sust + 300mg deca, how is that dosed?

sust 250mg/ml ?
deca 200mg/ml ?

at the above doses, that's 3.5 ml, which is getting large.

Maybe split your jabs evenly twice per week i.e. 250mg sust + 150mg deca x 2 per week say Monday morning and again on Thurday evening

Oupiel wrote:

About injection pain. This is from Prisoner on T-Nation forum.
Its a bit long, but could save your arse;-)(File Removed)

thankx il always keep this handy, i dont want a hole in my ass, or bi,lesly,did he had an absess in his leg, looks like a big whole they gut out of his leg.

Thanks for advise
Do you think my cycle is too heavy for first time?

No I don't think its too heavy, its pretty much on par for a first cycle, but not the lightest.

What I was getting at is that 3.5ml is a fair volume to be injecting in one go. Nothing to do with the dose.
I know some guys are happy to shoot 5ml.

Overall by spreading your dose you will maintain more consistent blood levels and you will not be shooting as much per shot.

Remember, Sust has short acting esters i.e. 30mg Propionate & 60mg Phenylpropionate.
These short esters can result in short spikes in blood concentrations, so lower doses more frequently would be better i.e. twice a week.

Better still 3 x week if your sust is in a vial and not preloaded syringes or ampules.