TREN, TEST PROP & TEST E CYCLE.

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05 Feb 2009 08:20 #9280 by ZAHC
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Hi guys i'm looking for help with this following cycle...
i'm planning on doing
TREN week 1-8 (375mg per week)
TEST PROP week 1-8 (300mg per week)
TEST E week 1-10 (250mg per week)

i'm looking to put on some qaulity mass, this will be my third cycle. any suggestions or feedback will be grat!

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05 Feb 2009 09:22 #9281 by Oupiel
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Why T En & T Prop?
Are you looking to "front load" with T Prop?

I'd just run 550mg of T En / week & drop the prop.
Spread the dose over 2 shots / week.

What Tren are you going to use i.e Tren A or E?
Also look at that 8 weeks of tren; "They" say 6 weeks is a good limit for tren.

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05 Feb 2009 09:35 #9282 by ZAHC
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YES, TEST PROP TO FRONT LOAD! PLUS I HAVE GOOD EXPERIENCE WITH TESTOVIRON WHICH IS BASICALLY A COBO OF BOTH TEST PROP AND TEST E, SO I DONT SEE THE PROBLEM WITH MIXING THE TWO, ANY SUGGESTIONS? I WILL BE TAKING 2 SHOTS EACH OF THE TEST PROP AND TREN PER WEEK! TEST E ONCE A WEEK!
I'M NOT SURE YET WHICH TREN I'LL BE GETTING I'M WAITING FOR MY SUPPLIER TO LET ME KNOW! ITS ALL PGW PRODUCTS.

DO YOU THINK I'LL RENDER GOOD RESULTS OR SHOULD I CHANGE MY COMPOUNDS?

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05 Feb 2009 11:30 #9283 by Oupiel
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T Prop idealy needs to be administered every other day (EOD) to maintain consistent blood levels.
T En is also better when the dose is spread over 2 shots / week i.e. consistent blood levels.

If you are "front Loading" with T Prop, it would not be necessary for 8 weeks, as T En should have reached stable blood levels by week 4.

Then if you run T En for the rest of the cycle, you may as well use Tren En i.e same ester and injection routine.

Run Tren for 5 - 6 weeks, that gives you 4 more weeks on T, while the Tren levels drop along with the supressive effects. (Tren being 19 nor based will shut you down hard)

That's my 2 cents.

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05 Feb 2009 11:49 #9284 by ZAHC
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No, dont call it 2 cents bro.... every bit of advise adds to knowledge!! thanks alot i will definatley take your advise on how many weeks to run the tren and eod T prop injections(not keen on the pain). i still am in two minds about why not to run test prop right through as testoviron is a blend of both T En and T Prop, any theories on this matter will be great help! if i'm only goin to run tren for 6 weeks should i increase my strengths from 375mg to 450mg per week?

i'm looking for a good diet for this cycle any thoughts?
i was thinking
wake up-clenbuterol and multi vitamin 6am
meal 1- protein oats 7am
meal 2- 6eggs 4whites 2whole/ orange and a serving whey protein 10am
meal 3- clenbuterol... chicken fillet green beans and brown rice 1pm omeaga3 fish oil tabs
meal 4- chicken brast green beans 4pm

training (5 pm) pre and post protein shakes shakes

meal 5- steak/ chicken/ tuna side salad beans and 1x teaspoon of olive oil pm7

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05 Feb 2009 16:58 #9302 by Inja
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Oupiels got some good advice, but I would get tren E and run it 10 weeks and the testE 12 weeks.

As stated above the reason for injecting prop EOD is to maintain stable blood levels. Prop/Enan 2xweek is not conducive to this.

As for diet what are your stats? If your doing your third cycle I would be eating more.

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Its just my point of view

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06 Feb 2009 07:48 #9316 by ZAHC
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height 1.73m
weight 80kg
BF 16%

well i'm not sure you can consider my first cycle a cycle at all as i was young and just trying to bulk for rugby, i ran 300mg decca a week and 250mg sust a week... i went from 60kg to 78kg over a 12 week course but put on so much BF as i didn't know about dieting! as i say i was young an naive!

over the years i had gained alot of weight from eating unhealthy and not training.... i have been training now for about two years and last year july i decided to go on another course of winny clen and test prop(All Taurus Products) i have dropped from 94kg to 80kg and have gone from 29% BF to 16%, i am looking to Drop BF while gaining lean muscle and strength! i train 4X a week and i bang 15min intense cardio 4X a week!

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06 Feb 2009 13:36 #9328 by superbeast2
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I would suggest longer cardio sessions at least 30 mins

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06 Feb 2009 14:04 #9330 by ZAHC
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I WOULD LOVE TO BANG MORE CARDIO BUT I JUST DONT HAVE ENOGH TIME THATS WHY I TRY DI 15MINS INTENSE!

HOWS MY DIET THOUGH?

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08 Feb 2009 18:17 #9379 by Inja
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You need to eat much more...

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