Second Cycle advice

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26 Feb 2012 15:10 #94599 by Frostosties
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Some advice on second cycle.

My brother is planing on starting his second cycle this week.
Taken from one of the sample cycles (Intermediate bulking cycle)

LP Dianabol 50mg Day 1-20
PGW Testen 600mg once a week x 15weeks
PGW Deca 525mg once a week x 13weeks
Pregnyl 1500 For use during cycle
LP Winstrol 30mg day 110 - 142

PCT:
1x Ovidrel 250
1x LP Aromasin (20mg x 30)
1x LP Clomid (50mg x 15)
1x LP Nolvadex (20mg x 30)

Ai:
Letrozole

Do u think that the deca will be a problem for a second cycle? I have read that this can shut u down? And will Cabaser be required during the cycle for the sides of Deca or will Aromasin or Letro be good enough?

He already have all gear in place so any advice if Deca would be a problem how can he use the current gear for a good second cycle.(Maybe lower the dosage?)

First cycle was:
PGW Testocyp 500mg p/week
Dianabol 40mg day 1-25

Stats:
Weight 85kg up to 100kg from cycle
Lenght 1.87m
Age 33yrs
2 years in the gym

Thanks in advance :P

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26 Feb 2012 15:25 #94601 by Kkkyle
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15kg gain, very nice.

DJ gave a very good idea in another thread

Test E 600mg a week split over two shots for 10 weeks
Test prop 100mg a week split between the two test E shots for 10weeks
Oral Tbol 40/60mg ED for 4 weeks
Winni at 40mg ED for 6weeks from last test E shot
100mg test prop per week for 4weeks from last test E shot

Rather save the deca and stronger compounds for when gains really slow down, he should still make pretty impressive gains from test alone.

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26 Feb 2012 16:33 #94605 by Frostosties
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Ok thanks alot.

Yes it is quite a gain he was on 106kg when he stopped but now stable @ 100kg

So u are saying Test prop 100mg a week split between the two test E shots for 10weeks and 100mg test prop per week for 4weeks from last test E shot does this total 14weeks of test prop @ 1oomg ? Why the splint in one week is it to benefit on stable blood levels?

Can he still use the Dianabol in the place of Oral Tbol as he already have it and think cash flow is low at the moment or will it be a problem, he didn't had any problem with gyno on his first cycle?
Will the pct be fine?

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26 Feb 2012 17:56 #94613 by Kkkyle
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yea splitting the doses will aloow for more stable hormone levels in the blood, since prop has a half life of 4.5days.

Dbols should be fine

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26 Feb 2012 17:58 #94614 by Kkkyle
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what I was thinking of doing is instead of 100mg a week for the last four weeks of test prop, id make it 200mg over a week... will have to see what DJ thinks of it first

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26 Feb 2012 18:59 #94620 by Empire
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Kyle I meant for u to use 100mg 2x a week, so 600mg test en and 200mg prop a week...so 800mg test in total.
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27 Feb 2012 07:57 #94643 by Frostosties
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So DJ do u think he must change the Deca with prop @100mg a week and then maybe 200mg for the last four weeks of test prop, ? Deca at lower dosages will it still be hard on the system i see some people do it at 350mg?
And do u think the rest of the cycle is in place? Thanks

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