My first Cycle

Yo guys/gals i am running my first cycle well aware of the fact that i am too young to do so , that put aside i would like any suggestions and advice.

Week 1 - 4 - Winstrol 50mg E\D
Week 1 - 4 - Proviron 25mg E\D
Week 1 - 14 - Ananar 50mg E\D
Week 1 - 10 - Test E 2ml P\W

Letrozole as an AI 0.5mg EOD
Clen and ECA cycled 2 weeks clen , 2 weeks ECA

PCT starts 30 days after last shot of test using Clomid and Aromasin and Nolvadex for PCT

My Diet is:

Wake - Whey isolate

Breakfeast - 3 egg whites and one whole egg on Low GI brown bread

Mid-Morning - Chicken Breast and Whey Isolate

Lunch - 250g lean mince with one cup brown noodles and a can of tamatoes

Mid-Day - Chicken Breast and Whey Isolate

Dinner - Chicken Breast and a cup broccoli or 250g steak with one Sweet Potato

Before Bed - 100g of cottage cheese or casien shake

Post Workout - Whey isolate

I drink about 2L of greentea a day and 1L of rooibos

Please guys any advice i am verry new to this

Stats?

14 weeks of Var and with an extra 4 of winny. BIG NO NO.

Diet needs changes too

But stats first before any more advice is givin

Rather frontload with dbol/tbol than winstrol. 14 weeks for anavar is to long (and costly), cut that down to 6-8 weeks.

How old are you?

I would add Pregnyl to your PCT 14 weeks Var is a bit much I would say 8 weeks max.
You are under eating as well what are the weights of your food?

21 years old
92kg
1.8m
21% bodyfat

goal is to lose all of my fat and sit at a below 10 % bodyfat
Anything else that you need?

its normally 200g to 300g chicken breasts

OH ya and my winny is unfortunately oral aswell

Cut your bf to at least 15% before going on cycle

Oosthuizen wrote: OH ya and my winny is unfortunately oral aswell

Nothing wrong with oral winny

I am luckely only 4 days on my cycle so any changes that needs to be made can still be made easily if i am correct?

I'd suggest you drop the bf to atleast 13% naturally before even considering cycling. U don't need aas to get to 10%bf. Diet, cardio and fatburners will get you there easily.
You need to weight out all ur food and work out the macro's so you can see if ur over or under eating.

Oosthuizen wrote: I am luckely only 4 days on my cycle so any changes that needs to be made can still be made easily if i am correct?

I'd stop the cycle right now, fix your diet and get your bf down

Ok so if i just drop everything now would that be fine or should i still pct after only 4 days?

Oosthuizen wrote: Ok so if i just drop everything now would that be fine or should i still pct after only 4 days?

Drop everything, keep the gear for future use, what have you taken in these 4 days?

FIRST and most important get hold of DJ to sort your diet out. ********

You have started so your body is already at an imbalance, I would continue but make changes as stated above run Anavar from week 6-14 whilst waiting for PCT.

50 mg of winny , 50 mg anavar , 25 mg of proviron every day and a 0.5ml test e shot
i also started with letrozole a week before i started my cycle

So you advise to keep going . . . ok so i must drop anavar and only start taking it again at week 6?

And i gues DJ is a member of this forum?

I'd personally stop aswell. Its only 4 days and you can do a mini pct and be sorted.

But if you do decide to cont, alot of changes need to happen

I don't understand why you didn't come here before starting your cycle. I still recommend stopping and running Tamoxifen @ 20mg ED for a week.

Lets say i do continue please advise what changes must be made i will gladly make them
and lets say i stop on what grounds would i have stopped ? is it only because of the bodyfat % ?

The thing is a buddy of mine have been running cycles alot and he made this one for me its only after i started that i thought of getting other peoples advice on this

The main reason is because of your lack of knowledge, you need to know what your doing before starting a cycle, your diet should be spot on well before starting a cycle. BF is to high. Whats your training?

The higher the bodyfat the higher the chances of estrogenic side-effects.

Plus in all honestly ur first cycle one wants to use it to bulk up not cut down, cuase ur best results/muscle gains come from your first cycle.

Oosthuizen wrote: The thing is a buddy of mine have been running cycles alot and he made this one for me its only after i started that i thought of getting other peoples advice on this

He clearly doesn't know much suggesting 14 weeks of Anavar.

Monday: Chest

* Flat Bench 4×8
* Incline Bench 4×8
* Decline Bench 4×8
* Pullover 4×12
* Hammer Press 3×12
* Dips 3×12

Tuesday: Back/Traps

* Bent Over Row 4×8
* Deadlift 4×8
* Pulldowns 4×12
* Pull Ups 4×12
* Cable Row 4×12
* Shrugs 6×10

Wednesday: Delts/Abs

* Military Press Behind The Neck 3×8
* Machine Press 4×8
* Lateral Raises 4 x 10
* Weight Plate Front Raises 4×10
* Front Raise 4×10
* Reverse Pec Deck 4×10
* Reverse Fly’s (on incline bench) 4×12
* Weighted Sit Up 4x failure
* Hanging Leg Raise- 4x failure
* Side Bends 4x failure
* Side Crunches 4x failure

Thursday: Rest

* Recovery

Friday: Triceps/Biceps

* Close Grip Bench Press 4×8
* Pushdown 4×8
* EZ Bar Skullcrusher 4×10
* Cable Kickback 4×12
* EZ Bar Curl 4×8
* Wide Grip Curl 4×8
* Hammer Curl 4×8(each hand)
* Concentration Curl 4×12

Saturday: Legs/Abs

* Squats 4×12
* Squat (to bench) 4×12
* Bulgarian Squat 4×12
* Quad Extensions 4×16
* Stiff Leg Deadlift 4×12
* Leg Curls 4×16
* Glute Kickbacks 4×20
* Calf Machine Raises 4×20
* Seated Calf Raises 4×20
* Leg Press Calf Raises 4×20
* Weighted Sit up 4x failure
* Air bike 4x failure
* Side Bends 4x failure
* Barbell Twists 4x failure

Sunday: Rest

* Recovery

I think your over complicating your training, to many exercises, how long do you spend in the gym each work out?

plus minus an hour i try to work it trough quick and i gym at a verry quiet gym so i do not have to wait on other people normally max 1:30h

and i must add i am not really going for a massive body builder look i am more going for the underwear model look that is also why i am doing a cutting cycle and not a bulk ( or rather that is my motivation behinde my whole dieet and cycle )