trying something new

Hi Guys

i was thinking of taking testen 300 with tren-ace 80.
is this a good course to go on and what else is good to stack with this?

WHY??

What do you want to achieve with this cycle?
What doses are you thinking of using, for how long?
Why the long with the short ester?
What other cycles have you done?
What are your stats i.e. age, weight, Body fat, training history, etc?

i want to achive lean mass. sorry i was an idiot there with wanting to use the short ester with the long.as i wanted to use the test 4 weeks before the tren-ace as the tren ace would get in and out faster. so now instead.
will be using only long ester. so will be Trenbolone Ethanate(tren 150) with Testosterone Enantate (Testen 300)

wanting to use

1-10 Test 600mg
1-10 Tren 300mg
5-10 privorin 50mg

have not done a cycle for quite sometime now, so wanting to shock my body.
age-23 ,weight 82 ,fat- last time a checked was 7%.

10 weeks of tren? Isn't that a bit extreme?
Most will recommend a max of an 8week cycle...

would 8 weeks be better?
so use test and the tren for 8 weeks and start the proviron on the 4th week?

Honestly mac, I'm not the best person to give advice on this cycle, as I'm also investigating my own, first Trenbolone cycle.
But that was one of the things I've noticed.
There is someone (I think its JackRabbit1) on this board, that does 12week Tren cycles without any severe side-effects.

What we also need to give proper advice on cycles is your stats: age, steroid & training history etc...

Nope; Nandrolone, not Tren.
Mac - you say you haven't done a cycle for long? and youre 23?

Anyway, if you haven't done Tren before you might want to stick with TrenAce and maybe switch the Test to Prop?

Thats if you go directly to the more advanced "Tren".

Why not switch to NPP for your 10 weeker? Maybe even extend it? but thats just my preference for the loooong cycle.

PGW - 2ml Test Prop + 1ml NPP EOD, Proviron 50mg/day(morn + eve)

Thanks anyway Silver.

i think my age is a big factor in this as im only 23.
i have done quite a few courses but mostly been the simple ones like deca,sust, Dbol with the odd Bold now and then. my traning is 5 times a week , my diet is good.

my last course i did was 500mg sus and 200mg tren which gave me great results but sides were quite mean.

My bad Jack..

mac wrote:

my last course i did was 500mg sus and 200mg tren which gave me great results but sides were quite mean.

What sides did you get?
What type of tren, short or long ester?
What would you blame the sides on sust or tren?

All the questions are just to make you think and be sure.

You could run tren ace for 4 - 6 weeks, due to the short ester, it will be effective sooner.
Also if the sides become a problem, the short active life of the tren will allow you to stop and get the tren out you system fairly quickly.

Running a longer estered test for 8 weeks will keep you anabolic while the suppresive effect of tren decreases.

Then normal PCT as the 19 nor issues with Kessar whould be a non event.
Aslo after 8 weeks, cortisol levels may not be too high.

or you could just run long esters.

the sides were- could not sleep much, higher than normal aggression , testes took quite a toll . but the results i got were fantastic just when you on tren cardio goes out the window.

it was the nomad lab tren it was 50% short ester and 50% long
i think it was the tren that were giving the sides.

Would there be any benefit to running short and long esters of tren together, like mixing
0.5ml Tren E(75mg) with 1ml Tren A(80mg), twice a week? Like nomads mix but stronger..

And considering Tren E's long ester wat would you guys recommend be the best cycle length weighing up sides against gains?