PGW ECA vs ECY

No, no explosives in it(dnp). You will feel that shit.

00pump wrote:

FIllet wrote: I spoke to a gent that works directly with them. PGW is an awesome brand don't get me wrong but it does not contain Ephedrine, none of them do. 20 years ago it was easy to come by and you could have the most amazing workout from it.
You will feel Ephadrine straight away, I felt nothing on the PGW ECA.

PGW best injections, but I'm pretty certain their product does not contain ephedrine and it ticks me off that the ingredient is not disclosed. And if it's using certain chemicals it could have severe reaction with other medication.. If I take test, anavar, yohimbine, clen you name it I know what it will do to me, but this priority blend shit I don't recommend anyone using it... And I'm the type of person to push the boundaries with just about anything and everyone, but not if I could land up in the ER and not be able to tell the Dr what I have consumed.. When I used to get updated what was in this stuff I would vouch knowing what the active ingredients where if I considered them safe based upon a person by person basis, but not a chance will I advise this stuff to anyone.

Spot on. For anyone who has used ephedrine, it is instantly obvious that none of the products mentioned above contain any of it. As pump says, it's insane to even consider taking something without knowing what it is (or is supposed to be) - which is what this "proprietary blend" BS is.

Well this is somewhat disappointing and alarming what reputable mods and members have stated. Guess just because it is made by PGW does not mean it is "safe" as many have stated.

Maybe ADMIN can shed some light as to what exactly it contains?

Day 3 now so too early to say much but seems to be very mild on me for someone who gets tremors from 200mg of caffeine usually LOL...

BeastBiceps wrote: Maybe ADMIN can shed some light as to what exactly it contains?

I don’t know what the ingredients are. The reason they don’t disclose what the product contains is to make it difficult for the competition to copy the formula and those that do provide a list is lying about it.

If you develop a product that works and publishes the ingredients the others will copy it in a heartbeat, so one can understand why they are tying to protect their competitive advantage, but it’s also bad for the consumer and in some cases dangerous.

There is NO fat burner on the market that uses real Ephedrine these days, that has been common knowledge for years. The acronym ECA is just used for marketing purposes these days.

BeastBiceps wrote: Well this is somewhat disappointing and alarming what reputable mods and members have stated. Guess just because it is made by PGW does not mean it is "safe" as many have stated.

Maybe ADMIN can shed some light as to what exactly it contains?

Day 3 now so too early to say much but seems to be very mild on me for someone who gets tremors from 200mg of caffeine usually LOL...

I would just stick with LP products when it comes to orals.. They have a broad range to cover everything you looking for, and if they put together a mix, I can assure you it's safe, or I would write an article not disclosing the ingredients but advising who should avoid a substance if anything.