Average BF% loss on clenbuterol

Hey guys.

So i just got some clen and I'm gonna start a hardcore cutting cycle soon. I was just wondering: with a good cardio routine (i.e. 5 times a week on top of weight training) and a good low fat, low simple carb, high protein diet(with all the bells and whistles) how much body fat can be lost before the thermogenic effects of the clen wear off?

I don't really want to stack it with winny or T3 cytomel as this is my very first attempt and I am only around 15% bf at the moment.

Also, is there anything I should know/do at the end of a cutting cycle? Does the fat come back quickly? etc etc.

Thanks hey

Well dude I just did a clen cycle (2weeks, now I'm off for 2 weeks) and I got decent results. Dropped about 2kgs. I was +- 11% bf and and now at about 9%. So I suppose its how your body reacts to it all but if your diets in check and you do your cardio, you will get good results (I slacked off on my cardio lol).

Sweet, I hope i'll be able to see my abs (for the first time in my life) lol.

Another thing. A lot of sources say clen is best used 4-6 weeks straight with a pyramided dosage. Others say 2 weeks, others say 2 days on 2 days off.

I was thinking of taking it once daily for 4-6 weeks starting at 60mcg and moving up to 160/180 if need be. Could I do that if I monitor body temperature and come off it when the temp drops back down to norm?

Ok so I figured it out now.

How about 3 weeks with the following dosages:
40/40/40/60/60/60/80/80/80/100/100/100/80/80/80/60/60/60/40/40/40
and raise them higher if I am not feeling it much?

If you are using the liquid-Pharma clen then I personally would suggest starting at 30 or 40mcg, the stuff is potent.
You should take some ketotifen with the clen if you are gonna run if for longer than 2 weeks at a time, I found that it helps a lot

Only go longer that 2 weeks if using Ketotifen, if not then 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off is the regular amoungst a lot of people.

I wouldn't start at 60mcg if you haven't used before. Like WTF said start lower and then work your way up every other day or so, or judge on the side effects if any.

Sweet thanks guys! One last thing, where can I get hold of Ketotifen? I just googled it and at first glance it looks like its available over the counter. Can I just go to the chemist and hook myself up?

You can get this over the counter at dischem,

ask for Adco-zetofen or Adco-ketotifen.

I paid about R70 for the Adco-zetofen

Yes you can. Its used to help with Asthma in kids.

Bugger, you beat me to it.

dober ketotifen is an antihistamine as far as i know, but suppose asthma control can be chucked in as one of its uses

WTF wrote:

You can get this over the counter at dischem,

ask for Adco-zetofen or Adco-ketotifen.

I paid about R70 for the Adco-zetofen

u talking bout the syrup right??

coz the pills are very expensive.

Yes, its the syrup...I went to 5 different Dischems before I fond it
The chemist at Pick 'n Pay tried to sell me some stuff for R260...told him what I thought of that idea.

I didn't know you got tetotifen in tablets

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R80 From Clicks pharmacy

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I have a question. I've always used clen over longer periods (4-6 weeks) with ketotifen and would like to try the 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off approach. What would be the recommended doses for a 2 week cycle? I would suspect that you'll still need to taper on and off.

Vega5,

I don't know the exact dosages, but I've read on some other forums that they usually start on 40mcg and work their way up to 120mcg (if you can tolerate the sides)within the first week and continue with that dosage throughout the second week without tapering off. Then restart at 80mcg the second time round and work your way up to 120mcg throughout the rest of the 2 week cycle.

Hey guys, so i'm finally gonna start my clen on monday morning on an empty stomach before my first meal before the cardio. I got hold of a bottle of Zaditen by Nova Labs (Ketotifen). I want to do 3 week cycles with the ketotifen but what dosage am i supposed to take of the Ketotifen?? Do I follow the box dosage or do I have to take a certain amout of mgs per mcg or clen or what?

Would appreciate the guidance..

Laters

U need to take between 2 and 5 mg per day. U cant follow the box dosage cos the dosage is recommended for the purpose of the drug not for clen use.

Beesting wrote:

U need to take between 2 and 5 mg per day. U cant follow the box dosage cos the dosage is recommended for the purpose of the drug not for clen use.

Hi Beesting,
Remember me? Changed my avatar. Should my wife also use Adco Zetofen? She has used Clen now for 11 days. We are not going to do the split cycle of 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. Should she also use the Clen on weekend mornings when she doesn't train?
Regards.

Hey NB1. She's almost been on for two weeks so I think she should take two weeks off while taking zetofen and then take clen continuosly with zetofen, my personal opinion from my experience. But she is at a low dose so it might be fine to just start zetofen but I would start it asap if she wants to not take a break. I have to start cycling clen two weeks on two weeks off now cos i got major receptor down regulation even with the zetofen but i cant afford to take 5 mg, I'll be goin through a bottle of zetofen a week if i do, lol. Hope this helps her . Almost forgot the last part, yes she should use it on weekends even when she doesnt train, there should still be clen in her system still even from a Friday's dose due to the long half life.

Beesting wrote:

Hey NB1. She's almost been on for two weeks so I think she should take two weeks off while taking zetofen and then take clen continuosly with zetofen, my personal opinion from my experience. But she is at a low dose so it might be fine to just start zetofen but I would start it asap if she wants to not take a break. I have to start cycling clen two weeks on two weeks off now cos i got major receptor down regulation even with the zetofen but i cant afford to take 5 mg, I'll be goin through a bottle of zetofen a week if i do, lol. Hope this helps her . Almost forgot the last part, yes she should use it on weekends even when she doesnt train, there should still be clen in her system still even from a Friday's dose due to the long half life.

Thanks for the info Beesting, She is on 40mcg per day so I think we will run her continuous for now. I will also get some Adco Zetofen today. I suppose she should take 2-5ml syrup per day.

No problem, any day. 10 ml syrup. Adco-zetofen: 5ml has 1mg zetofen and minimum required is 2mg. Hope you find it, some pharmacies dont seem to have it in stock. Try Clicks pharmacy and if nothing then try Dischem. One more thing, she should take it at night before bed as they say it makes u drowsy not that I notice the drowsiness

Beesting, isn't 10ml a day a lot and how long do you use it for? Those Adco bottles are they not 100ml. So if you use it continuously you would use 3 bottles per month?

Its not that much (minimum dose). The bottles are two hundred mls. You use it continuously until you've finished ur clen cycle but it makes sense to me to use it up until the last two weeks of the cycle (so that the last two weeks are clen only. From my experince over the last two weeks I dont think the zetofen is worth it unless ur able to take 5mg this is why I've chosen to cycle it two weeks on two weeks off. Im currently trying to get a price from the pharmaceutical companies for ketotifen fumurate as this would be cheaper than adco-zetofen syrup.