bulk cycle & fat reduction

Hi guys.

Im sure this question must be asked on numerous occasions. I am currently in the middle of a bulking cycle using sustanon, testen300, test cyp250 and drostanolone (the latter was a gift of a half a bottle so added to the mix). next up is tren enanthate and turinabol. now i know bulking and fat loss dont quite mix at all but would like some advice. due to shoulder injury i was out of commission for 4 months. in this time a gained a little fat. call a spade a spade. currently i am having 6-7 meals a day consisting of lean meats, eggs, rice, pasta, potatoes and greens also mrp shakes and whey protein. also an over the counter thermogetic. the problem is im not happy with the reduction to date. what cardio should i add to the mix as i dont have a stationary cycle and i detest jogging, besides that i believe jogging isnt that great after all. stats: 1.83m 117kg approx 12% BF. any inputs?

well its kind of difficult to do both at the same time. to gain muscle u need to eat surplus calories to grow muscle,in order to lose fat u need to eat less... so to do both is not really easy,i suggest u look at cutting then bulking, but do a lean bulk... another thing is what MRP are u using? that can lead to fat gain...there are quite a few tricks u can do to cut down and maintain all the muslce u have obtained and maybe grow a bit more lean mass if your calories are at optimum. i always suggest taking your time when cutting therefore less muscle mass loss.u will probably end up dropping alot of water too at u are using heavy test cycles...the next thing is are u using tren and turanabol wthout any test? if so then good luck with shut down,when using tren your test should always be higher than your tren. so if u are using 300mg tren a week 600mg of test should suffice,if u are using 450mg of tren 900mg of test should be alright.... u dont want the shut down problems that tren/19nor substances can give u...

if u are looking for a decent diet that will be tailored to your stats then email me on EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED if u search the forum u will see that i have helped a good couple guys with dieting and even helping guys prep for shows,i helped skyth with his prep and i am currently helping ogre and classic1...

thanx bud.

the test info is really helpfull! will definately email u.

You aint that fat bro.. You planning to compete eventually sometime in the future?

ja i know. and no competing. i just know what i want and where i was before my shoulder injury. just struggling a bit without a stationary cycle as jogging stuffs my knees up