Clenbuterol Usage

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19 Jan 2010 11:24 #33990 by CrazyHorse
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Hi Guys

I’ve been training for 3 years and haven’t used any gear before.
I’ve want to reduce my % BF and plan on using Clenbuterol.
Can you please look at my planned dosages and comment please.

WK (1) – 40cmg
WK (2) – 60cmg
WK (3 – 8) – 80cmg

Wk 4 & 7 - Ketotifen

Or do you recommend using Clen for 3 wks on 2 weeks off?

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19 Jan 2010 11:39 #33991 by Michael
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I would use it two weeks on and two weeks off. The two weeks off I would use eca stack.

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19 Jan 2010 11:39 #33992 by Sting
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If you plan to use ketotifen, you should start using it before you start clen and you should be cycling the clen either two days on and off or two weeks on and off (without ketotifen). How much ketotifen are you planning to take?

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19 Jan 2010 11:44 #33993 by Jayman
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if you're using the ketotifen you don't need to cycle you're clen (provided you take enough of the ketotifen)
use it from the start of you're clen cycle also.
as for you're dosages, you're gonna have to adjust them according to how the clen affects you personally.
I went up to 120mcg with no problem

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19 Jan 2010 11:44 #33994 by CrazyHorse
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Hi Beesting

I'm battling to find info on recommended dosage for Ketotifen. Looking at the dosages of Clen I intend taking can you help with correct dosage for Ketotifen please?

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19 Jan 2010 11:47 #33996 by Sting
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Beesting wrote:

From what I have read the optimal dose is 5mg. I dont know how much other people on this forum use, if they use at all. I am trying to get raw powders for ketotifen fumurate and its price, and that way I can experiment with dosages to see what gives the best result.

5mg is 5 teaspoons which is 25ml of adco zetofen. A bottle is two hundred mls and sells for about eighty rand, if you are lucky to find it. So according to the maths, a bottle (taking 5mg) will last 8 days. So do you see the expense that it is. If I were taking low doses of clen, say max 50mcg, I might get away with taking 2mg (minimal dose) but i take 100 mcg clen so I cant get away with a low dose from my experience

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19 Jan 2010 12:05 #33999 by J34N
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Ahoy CrazyHorse!

I was on clen for 8weeks before the december holidays and used it two days on and two days off which worked great for me! I took a "less potent" fatburner on the off days and normally tried to have my LOW carb days on the clen days!

IMO start the dosage off pretty low i.e. 40mcg per day spread out as much as possible throughout the da, and then up the dosage slowly per day, not that you wont be able to handle it but i went up from 40mcg to 100mcg per week and after that first week i had to keep on having high dosages to have the same effect on my body! So yeah, keep increasing the dose steadily so that you get the maximum effect of clen! ...lolz i used to feel if the veins wanted to pop out from the side of my head if i had a good dose that day :woohoo: pretty stupid i know...

oja, keep taurine intake at about 3g minimum per day and if you really want to get a good effect, try taking benadryl(or similar) at night during your off days because that'll help reset the beta-receptors for more uptake and just keep in mind it's a anti-histamine so it can make you drowsy.

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19 Jan 2010 12:22 #34003 by ABC01
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I finished my 2 week clen cycle 1 week ago. Was my first as well. I started off with 40mcg per day. Quickly went up to 140mcg (in about 4 days) without feeling any discomfort. I guess everybody reacts diff. Im small (79kg) and the dosage was fine. Took taurine at 2-3g per day. The stuff works

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19 Jan 2010 12:23 #34004 by CrazyHorse
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Should I be avoiding cardio while on Clen to control heartbeat?
I've also read that Clen can actually increase strenght is this true?

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19 Jan 2010 12:26 #34006 by Sting
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Just keep cardio to low intensity and you should be fine

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19 Jan 2010 12:28 #34008 by CrazyHorse
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Tks for all the replies. Does an 8 week cycle sound excessive for a first time user?

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19 Jan 2010 12:31 #34009 by Sting
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Nope

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19 Jan 2010 13:52 #34011 by ABC01
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CrazyHorse wrote:

Should I be avoiding cardio while on Clen to control heartbeat?
I've also read that Clen can actually increase strenght is this true?


Im into endurence sports and my cardio was absolutely desasterous while on clen. I just fatigued very quickly. Its been a week since i took last dose and cardio is still not 100%. Dont avoid cardio since it helps with the whole process you intend to use clen for. Just avoid hi intensity cardio. If you know your max hr i would say dont go above 80-85% max hr in your sessions. 30-40min at 70-80% should be ideal

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19 Jan 2010 14:49 #34019 by J34N
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Clen does not directly increase strength but it can have an effect on it! Remember that clen was first developed for asthma patients to increae the oxygen input etc. (its like salbutemol, the south african version) ...so it can defnitely give you the "extra wind" so to speak!

What really helped for me was to take 1/3 of the daily dose after my cardio session in the morning round 6:30am and then after my lunch about 6hours later i took the remaining daily dose! IMO it's just like your daily carb input vs. output, if you re-distibute your carbs(doses) you'll get better cardio in and have the full effect of your clen aswell!

The cardio sessions that i followed looks roughly like this:
start walking on the treadmill at about 4km/h and then every min or so increase it till you get to round 7km/h, then check your HR! When it gets to 60-70% maxHR then keep it there for another min or two! Then sprint for 1min as fast as you can (say about 16km/h) and then walk again on 4km/h till your HR reaches its' 60-70% mark again and repeat the sprinting and walking till you feel that you've had enough, and you'll feel it trust me!

IMO ... maxHR = 220-age ...thats how i calculate my percentages using the treadmill!

But like you know, everyone differs and keep your health in mind, this worked for me 'coz i droped from 12% to 6% BF in 8weeks following this exact plan (nutrition and training was included and goes without saying)!

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19 Jan 2010 18:44 #34040 by Yohimbe
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Instead of ketofen, you can use Betasleep. THe Diphenhydramine HCI also upregulates the beta receptors, and is a hell of a lot cheaper than keto.
Even so, I would only run clen for 4 weeks at a time, then come off and run an ECA for a couple of weeks.

Don't forget to take taurine as clen depletes taurine levels in the liver. This will help with cramping.

Salbuterol is albuterol, not clen-same active ingredient but half life differs considerably. Albuterol has a very short half life and needs to be dosed every 4 hrs or so. Clen has a 36 hr half life and can be taken once per day.

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09 Mar 2010 00:26 #39139 by Tippster
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Hi

i was buying taurine from dischem and I think it was around R70 for 90 0,5g caps

I found a much better solution - muscle works sells powder R100 fro 200g taurine
muscleworks.co.za/store/index.php?main_p...2_38&products_id=125

Hope it will save some bucks ;)

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09 Mar 2010 07:21 #39142 by Sting
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I manage to get it raw for R70 a kilo so maybe speak to LSJ and he can organise taurine as well

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09 Mar 2010 14:40 #39215 by Tippster
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wow

thats cheap - spoke to him a while ago but wasnt keen at the time to source it.

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09 Mar 2010 14:49 #39220 by Sting
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ah ok, well 200g at R100 will last u ages so its not really a big deal

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11 Mar 2010 11:57 #39433 by CrazyHorse
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Tks for all the help. I'm into day 4 of my Clen cycle and I'm planning on running it for six weeks using ADCO-Zetofen during week 3 and 4.

Here is a summary of my usage so far.

Day 1 - 20cmg Little dizzy
Day 2 - 40cmg Little dizzy & light headache in evening
Day 3 - 80cmg Headache during training but I drank more water and headaches disapeared.
Day 4 - 80cmg Felt good in the gym. Slight cramp in shoulder will up my Taurine intake.

My temp has not increased! Sitting at 36-36.5C and my blood pressure is low 112/70. Is the stuff working?

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11 Mar 2010 12:08 #39437 by Sting
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Did you get any shakes?

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11 Mar 2010 12:52 #39441 by CrazyHorse
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A little shaky after training but I don't know if thats from using the Clen. Is a dose of 80cmg enough though?

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11 Mar 2010 13:00 #39442 by SNOK1986
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Well if suffering from side effects than dont increase the dosage... 80cmg is okay some peeps go up to 120.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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11 Mar 2010 13:50 #39452 by N3rd
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Hey, crazyhorse,
What brand of clen did you get?

Do you use alot of caffeine or other stimulants incl ECA stacks?
If so, when, how long, how much?

I get shaky and hot on 4mg of salbutamol... (roughly = to 40mcg clen)
And I'm not sensitive to any stimulant...

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11 Mar 2010 14:53 #39456 by CrazyHorse
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I use Clen 40 Global anabolic company. First time I use a fat burner

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