Whey and Oats Diet

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09 Jul 2010 10:05 #47177 by Jupiter
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Everybody who have spent a little educating themselves about dieting and bodybuilding knows that a calorie controlled diet (either hyper or hypo depending on your goals), with the correct macro nutrient ratio, is a very important part when trying to sculpt a better you.

Secondly I think many would agree that whey protein and oatmeal are excellent food choices to include as part of your diet. In what I have read avocados are also a good choice to include for the healthy fats in them.

My question is what if you calculate your calorie requirement and ratios and use only oatmeal, whey protein and avocado oil (since in my experience it is generally easier to obtain than macadamia nut oil), spilt across multiple meals and eat only that.

Some problems I see with this are perhaps:
  1. That it would be boring (not to mention hard) to eat the same thing 6 times a day every day.
  2. This is not the optimal pre- and post-workout meals.
Ignoring the above, why do you think this would still be a bad idea. To me this sort of diet also does not “sound” right, but is there anything fundamentally wrong with it? You will still get the correct macro nutrients, the food choices are “clean” and you can supplement with a multi-vitamin to help with some of the micro-nutrient requirements.

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09 Jul 2010 10:32 #47180 by Mr_SA
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The fact that you will not be taking in "Whole Foods" is definitely one of the major concerns with that.

Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...

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09 Jul 2010 10:43 #47181 by Jupiter
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I really want to clear this out in my mind and understand it properly, so please forgive me if I sound a little ignorant and ask lots of questions.

What would the major concern be when you do not get the “Whole Foods” in?

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09 Jul 2010 11:05 #47183 by Sting
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Jupiter wrote:

I really want to clear this out in my mind and understand it properly, so please forgive me if I sound a little ignorant and ask lots of questions.

What would the major concern be when you do not get the “Whole Foods” in?


The reason you want whole foods, such as a solid protein source is that it takes longer to digest and that way you utilise the nutrients far more effectively to sustain blood sugar levels over a certain period. Think about it, if you have say sugar as a carb source vs whole foods containing a carb source, blood sugar levels will spike and then be low until it stabilises back to normal levels. It makes it easier for your body to store the sugar as glycogen and fat rather than utilising it for body functioning and energy expenditure. Well that's how I see it

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09 Jul 2010 11:26 #47186 by Jupiter
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The reason you want whole foods, such as a solid protein source is that it takes longer to digest and that way you utilise the nutrients far more effectively to sustain blood sugar levels over a certain period. Think about it, if you have say sugar as a carb source vs whole foods containing a carb source, blood sugar levels will spike and then be low until it stabilises back to normal levels. It makes it easier for your body to store the sugar as glycogen and fat rather than utilising it for body functioning and energy expenditure. Well that's how I see it


Thank you for the response Beesting. I completely understand what you mean when it comes to the absorption rate of the whey since it is considered relatively fast. What if you then combine your whey with something slower like casein?

Would the reasonably low GI oats not be enough to control your blood sugar levels especially if you still eat your meals every couple of hours? The addition of the avo oil should theoretically make the GI even lower of these meals from what I have read?

I am not at all suggesting this diet is a good idea; just keen to understand what the problems are that one simply cannot overcome without eating those “Whole Foods”.

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09 Jul 2010 11:40 #47187 by Mr_SA
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Maybe this will answer that question...
Not the greatest article... but it sort of says everything.
www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Perez1.html

Basically... your body needs whole foods to grow... The goodness etc from whole foods cant really be compared to Protein Shakes.

Wish i knew how to put what i am thinking into words.

Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...

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09 Jul 2010 11:45 #47189 by Sting
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I used the whey as an example as everyone can relate it but it will apply to all types of food sources. Lowering the GI of foods will contribute to slower digestion, but also remember that the body utilises energy to digest food, so the more complex the food, the longer it will take to digest it and the more energy efficient you become.

It's how you train your body to utilise energy, if you stick to less complex sources of foods, you digest it faster and your body will initially want to store it as an energy source and to accomodate for that, your metabolism will slow down so keeping with more complex foods in away keeps the metabolism at its optimum if that makes any sense. This is just the logic I see with your question so dont take my word for it

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09 Jul 2010 12:00 #47191 by quietlyplayful
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Braaivleis and oats then... because braaivleis is a whole food. And it has a strip of fat.

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09 Jul 2010 12:47 #47201 by Mr_SA
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Bu that is not a healthy fat....

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09 Jul 2010 12:53 #47204 by quietlyplayful
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Mr_SA wrote:

Bu that is not a healthy fat....


So, removing the strip of fat, cutting the meat into little cubes and mixing it in with oats (with a little olive oil) should suffice?

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