Clenbuterol Cycle

I am planning to run the Clenbuterol cycle listed below and would like input on whether I am on the right track and what I must change to further improve it. As I footnote – I will be running this with a weight training program and calorie restricted diet, but that’s just the common sense bit.

First a little bit of rational about what I plan to do:

Clenbuterol – I will use Liquid Pharmaceuticals oral drops. Starting off at a dose of 20 mcg (4 drops) per day, and will gauge my reaction to it in terms of blood pressure, heart rate while exercising, and “shakes” I may experience during the day. This dosage will be slowly increased depending on the reaction to a maximum dosage not exceeding 120 mcg.

I plan to take the Clenbuterol in split doses every 12 hours, for example, 10 mcg at 05:00 in the morning and 10 mcg at 17:00 for a total of 20 mcg during the first couple of days during the cycle. I am a bit in two minds about split dosages as Clenbuterol has a 36 hour half-life, will a split dose be better than a single dose?

Betasleep – To prevent beta receptor down regulation I will use 50 mg Diphenhydramine HCI daily before bed time.

Taurine – Since Clenbuterol depletes Taurine levels in the liver (which stops the conversion of T4 to T3, and can also lead to painful muscle cramps) I will be supplementing with 3 g of SOLAL Technologies Taurine daily – 6 capsules.

Thermometer – Since the whole point of using Clenbuterol is for the thermogenic effect to increase fat burn I will take my temperature daily upon rising in the morning. Thermogenesis is optimal between 36.5 and 37.1 degree Celsius, and a temperature above 37.2 becomes dangerous and lead to organ damage and Thyroid suppression if maintained.

When my temperature falls below 36.5 degree Celsius I will know that the Clenbuterol is no longer working and that I either need to give the receptors a break or up the dosage.

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See what your body temperature is over a few days without clen instead of using the range you gave. Your body temp may not even fall below 36.5 deg C, even without clen. Clen should only raise it by 0.5-1 deg C.

12 weeks seems pretty long to run clen with a max dose of 120mcg, even though beta sleep will help with upregulation of beta receptors there will still be receptor downregulation, it just wont be as fast. Maybe run for 6 weeks, two weeks off and then cycle again or alternate 2 weeks on and off with an ECA stack.

Don't rely on shakes as an indicator of whether or not clen is still working, you only experience the shakes at the start and when you increase the dose but again you may not experience shakes at all.

Taurine definately makes a difference

Bump Sting-I would say shorten the cycle and reach your max dose quicker-I would aim to reach your max dose by at least the middle of week 2 and only run the cycle for 4-6 weeks before coming off for at least 2 weeks.
Or the old 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.

If its your first time with clen, don't have a set max dose in mind, play it by ear-some can handle high doses some can't so tirate up as you have at 20mcg, but I would say every 2nd or third day up the dose to reach your max.

Thank you for the really good advice Sting and Yohimbe! I will heed your advice and will only cycle for 6 weeks and then take a break for two weeks. My question now is, after the break between cycles where do I start again? At 20 mcg again or somewhere in between, depending on how the previous cycle went?

As shown below I also updated my planned cycle to reach the maximum dosage sooner as Yohimbe suggested.

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First see what max dose you reach before you decide on the number of weeks, you might need only 80mcg, so 4-6 weeks like yohimbe said and then stay on beta sleep while you take two weeks off to speed up receptor upregulation.

See how you manage on 20mcg when you start, if sides are minimal then when you start again you can start at a higher dose. When I first started cycling clen, I would start at 25mcg because again you don't know how a compound will affect you but now with experience I usually start off at 40mcg, that is what I find works for me but it depends on the person. You cant lay down rules, you'll find what works for you when you play with compounds

stark, I really like the way that you have done your homework and you seem like an organised person. Do you mind posting up the diet that you will be using during your clen cycle, and the type of training that you will be doing?

I’ll start out by listing my training routine since it is much easier. I still have to get the macronutrients right on the diet and finalize it; there are a couple of things, like broccoli, which I really hate intensely and do not want to include. :silly:

At this point the goal of my routine is first and foremost to preserve lean body mass while shedding fat. It is a six day split, Monday to Saturday with a rest day on Sunday. On average I spend between 40 to 60 minutes in gym and would not really want to increase this too much to prevent overtraining and especially since I don’t have too much spare time.

On the point of over training I am also not doing cardio right now. However, when fat loss slows I will perhaps start doing 20 minutes cardio after work, but in general I prefer to rather cut calories – again due to time being a slight issue.

I lift the heaviest weight I can while maintaining good form, and increase the weight when I achieve 8+ reps on all sets on an exercise. I usually rest between 2 and 3 minutes between sets to recover a bit, depending on how high my heart rate is (which can become quite high doing squats).

I really welcome your feedback on my training routine, as I am sure there is plenty of room for improvement.

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you are gonna over train.

superbeast2 wrote: you are gonna over train.

Bump Beast-I wouldn't train more than 2 days on before taking day off-you don't grow in the gym

Again, thanks for the advice guys, I really appreciate the feedback!

If I take a rest day every third day (Monday, Tuesday, REST, Thursday, Friday, REST etc) but keep the same workouts as listed above, will that be sufficient?

Another question I have is around the pre- and post-workout meals. Currently I use something very simple:

• • Whey Protein
• • Creatine Monohydrate
• • L-Glutamine
• • Dextrose (post workout only)

On the non-training days should I skip these two meals completely, and perhaps only take the Creatine and Glutamine, or alternatively keep them but skip the dextrose as I do not need it to replenish glycogen stores? My rational is obviously on rest days I will need a little bit less calories as I am not burning the ±350 calories in gym.