Warrior diet

Yup you can use the diet for bulking as well. Just take in your required calories during the feedig period.

If you are doing intermittent fasting then you can feed for 8 hours and fast for 16 hours

each to their own,i dont agree with this principle personally and i think if it was such a good approach to things that he would have more ifbb pro bodybuilders doing this... yes i agree that there is no scientific proof about meal frequency but lets say joe average need to consume 3000calories a day to grow,now eating all that food from clean healthy food in one sitting can become difficult,hence the reason to be splitting it up,also i find that 1 sitting of carbs makes me crash post meal inrerms of blood sugar yet dividing up your carbs into smaller portions during the day or pre and post work out and breakfast will keep your blood sugar and insulin levels lower during the day... like i said its my personal opinion,good if its working for u...i have loads of guys getting results doing things along the conventional lines so i will stick to these principles... i would love to see jay cutler trying to shovel down his 6500calories of clean food in 1 sitting hahaha.

ice-rip wrote: u have me sold. will start tom.

ok warrior is undereating and intermitent is fasting. which have the best results for u. and just to confirm u are eating only 2000cal/day. how tall heavy and old r u

i would wait till your bloods come back normal before attempting anything drastic buddy

alrighty then. its back to the diet drawing board for me then, but as a shift worker i will say this sounds way more appealing than constant eating of small meals..

I find this "diet" more what I would call 'shock therapy' and can be used in a plateau and it's for a few days, I do not see it as being a health approach and pictures mean jack shit, I have been around 6.4% bodyfat my whole life until I really started overdoing things to try hold a bit of fat, regardless how much food I could down or how much simple carbs I could consume.. So I don't think it's the diet, either you have the genes or you don't. The bottom line is life is about balance, eating 6 small meals a deal is healthy, provides a stable insulin influx so one has stable sugar levels. If I had to do this diet i'd be on my back, as I suffer just like MANY people I know with hypoglycemia.

DJ wrote: each to their own,i dont agree with this principle personally and i think if it was such a good approach to things that he would have more ifbb pro bodybuilders doing this... yes i agree that there is no scientific proof about meal frequency but lets say joe average need to consume 3000calories a day to grow,now eating all that food from clean healthy food in one sitting can become difficult,hence the reason to be splitting it up,also i find that 1 sitting of carbs makes me crash post meal inrerms of blood sugar yet dividing up your carbs into smaller portions during the day or pre and post work out and breakfast will keep your blood sugar and insulin levels lower during the day... like i said its my personal opinion,good if its working for u...i have loads of guys getting results doing things along the conventional lines so i will stick to these principles... i would love to see jay cutler trying to shovel down his 6500calories of clean food in 1 sitting hahaha.

For a man that likes to eat and get full at a meal, i'm pretty sure they can put away 3000 calories in either a 4 (warrior) or 8(IF) hour period. I know I sure can.


If you eat your feast at night you can crash a few hours later and have a great sleep. Throughout the following day you have incredible energy without any ups or downs. It is constant until your next feast.

Each to their own as you say.

With this way of eating, results speak for themselves, and if you go through the forums relating to IF and Warrior you will see that pretty much everyone had the same view as you before they started - "This go's against everything I have known about bodybuilding" "I need frequent meals to keep my energy up" "I will lose muscle on this diet" - However all these myths have been debunked and pretty much everyone who has taken the plunge is loving the diet and will never go back. Their strength is up and body fat is down. I woke up this morning a lot leaner then yesterday.. it is actually insane!

Just the fact that you don't have to prepare so many meals for the day is a huge bonus. I can go to work, do what I have to do without worrying about meal times and I come home to a huge feast. This is how our ancestors lived for thousands of years, until we went and changed it in the last few hundred years.

It will take a long time before people actually accept this as a way of eating because of all the bro-science out there, and the fact that people HATE change. People as a species are afraid of the unknown. I suggest you all read - "who moved my cheese" and "the world is flat"

DJ wrote:

ice-rip wrote: u have me sold. will start tom.

ok warrior is undereating and intermitent is fasting. which have the best results for u. and just to confirm u are eating only 2000cal/day. how tall heavy and old r u

i would wait till your bloods come back normal before attempting anything drastic buddy

As DJ said, don't stuff around, your body currently doesn't need anything drastic, it needs balance.

will DJ. even though im doing this ill still keep protein within the recommended guidelines under 200g. i am more interested in it is because the research ive done shows that fasting also helps detox the body. so that would be another plus given the current situation. im gonna try the intermittent fast and my meals that start from 12 will be a combo fresh fruit and veg complex carbs and around 60g protein over 3 meals

DJ do u reckon the larger meals can place any strain on ones system

00pump wrote: I find this "diet" more what I would call 'shock therapy' and can be used in a plateau and it's for a few days, I do not see it as being a health approach and pictures mean jack shit, I have been around 6.4% bodyfat my whole life until I really started overdoing things to try hold a bit of fat, regardless how much food I could down or how much simple carbs I could consume.. So I don't think it's the diet, either you have the genes or you don't. The bottom line is life is about balance, eating 6 small meals a deal is healthy, provides a stable insulin influx so one has stable sugar levels. If I had to do this diet i'd be on my back, as I suffer just like MANY people I know with hypoglycemia.

This is your view, and only your view. There are many many guys who are doing this as a way of life and absolutely loving the results. They wish they had found it before.

In your opinion the 6 meals a day is the healthiest etc. But do you have any evidence to back it up? I have evidence that intermittent fasting is as healthy, if not healthier. Fasting has proven to have MANY health benefits including the release of growth hormones.

But as another guy posted yesterday - "why fix what aint broke". So if you are someone who is happy with your results, you like eating many small meals, and scared of change, then by all means carry on doing what you are doing. But don't try put other people off just because you feel it is not a good diet (you haven't even tried it)

i hear u pump. then ill postpone this experiment till im well again. tx guys

ice-rip, well its quite simple the more than goes in at one time the more the kidney and the liver needs to work to get rid of the toxins.. You don't want a HUGE amount of protein in a few sittings, you want it spread over the day to place less strain on your kidneys..

www.leangains.com/2010/10/top-ten-fasting-myths-debunked.html

00pump wrote: ice-rip, well its quite simple the more than goes in at one time the more the kidney and the liver needs to work to get rid of the toxins.. You don't want a HUGE amount of protein in a few sittings, you want it spread over the day to place less strain on your kidneys..

www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-nutrition/is...se-in-a-single-meal/

Rocknrolla wrote:

00pump wrote: I find this "diet" more what I would call 'shock therapy' and can be used in a plateau and it's for a few days, I do not see it as being a health approach and pictures mean jack shit, I have been around 6.4% bodyfat my whole life until I really started overdoing things to try hold a bit of fat, regardless how much food I could down or how much simple carbs I could consume.. So I don't think it's the diet, either you have the genes or you don't. The bottom line is life is about balance, eating 6 small meals a deal is healthy, provides a stable insulin influx so one has stable sugar levels. If I had to do this diet i'd be on my back, as I suffer just like MANY people I know with hypoglycemia.

This is your view, and only your view. There are many many guys who are doing this as a way of life and absolutely loving the results. They wish they had found it before.

In your opinion the 6 meals a day is the healthiest etc. But do you have any evidence to back it up? I have evidence that intermittent fasting is as healthy, if not healthier. Fasting has proven to have MANY health benefits including the release of growth hormones.

But as another guy posted yesterday - "why fix what aint broke". So if you are someone who is happy with your results, you like eating many small meals, and scared of change, then by all means carry on doing what you are doing. But don't try put other people off just because you feel it is not a good diet (you haven't even tried it)

Please provide me the medical proof over a long period of time this is healthy for your organs and well being.. Do not provide me a 1 day a week fast article as I have read hundreds of these. I have experiemented with my body more than most people and can comfortably say that energy levels are low, my sugar levels drop dramatically and I start getting shaky, serotonin levels are lower ( I start feeling depressed and anxious ), I cannot see how this as a lifestyle is healthy for you..

Yes I believe in fasting as I am a religious man, I do not believe in dry fasting and I do not believe in doing what you recommend for long periods of time as it places huge strain on ones digestive organs and glands and whats worse is it affects nutrient assimilation and absorption... Listen I am not even going further into this, you clearly have been sold on something you do not know enough about, that is why I refrained from commenting on this article and will continue to do so, anyone who wants to do this, good luck and enjoy the dangers it will provide.

im loving this thread .great arguments on both sides. would hate to be a jury deciding this case. lol

00pump wrote:

DJ wrote:

ice-rip wrote: u have me sold. will start tom.

ok warrior is undereating and intermitent is fasting. which have the best results for u. and just to confirm u are eating only 2000cal/day. how tall heavy and old r u

i would wait till your bloods come back normal before attempting anything drastic buddy

As DJ said, don't stuff around, your body currently doesn't need anything drastic, it needs balance.

I am unaware of your current situation and if you are on the road to recovery from anything drastic I would recommend you stick to what is working before make any big changes to your diet

Rocknrolla wrote:

00pump wrote: ice-rip, well its quite simple the more than goes in at one time the more the kidney and the liver needs to work to get rid of the toxins.. You don't want a HUGE amount of protein in a few sittings, you want it spread over the day to place less strain on your kidneys..

www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-nutrition/is...se-in-a-single-meal/

that is such old information and I have read much further into that topic.. my view still stands, you will not sway you.. please rather target someone else with your points of views.

Our ancestors must have had major kidney, depression, insulin, emotional, energy problems until some wizard said 6 meals a day will be healthier.

No.. they woke up, spent the rest of the day searching for food, with plenty energy. They would hunt and find food, bring it back to the village for a traditional feast at night. They got all their calorie needs in this one meal. They did not pack lunch boxes for the day ahead

Heart attacks, strokes, kidney problems, depression have only become a major problem in recent times.

www.sciencecodex.com/study_finds_routine...ealth_and_your_heart

Mmmmm - have any of you read this paper before? How does the insulin theory of so many carbs at one sitting hold up?

www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/rea/big-f...ards-and-insulin.htm

rocknrolla! you are new here and iv only seen you post in thiz topic,all ur posts say the same thing,ancestors warriors bla bla bla.seems like you were paid by someone to persuade people..if i dont eat in the morning i act like a women on her period and want to tear peoples heads off all day till i chow..

ps:our ancestor warriors also lived in caves,cooked on fires and beat their wives with wooden bats,do you recommend this appraoch aswell?

I was just trying to introduce you guys to a way of dieting that is working wonders for me and many other people, as well as let you know that everything you are doing is based on bro-science, not actual science.

This is my last post. I hope those of you who are brave enough to try new things give either warrior or IF a shot.

Good luck for the future and train hard!

Rocknrolla wrote: I was just trying to introduce you guys to a way of dieting that is working wonders for me and many other people, as well as let you know that everything you are doing is based on bro-science, not actual science.

i hear u bud,but u gotta look at things from other ways to even "bro science" has merit,i have read loads of books about nutrition etc and some of the best info i have ever read is from a man named Chris Aceto,he is jay cutlers old trainer and nutritionist and one of the most respected nutritionists of the top athletes in the ifbb, he applies the 6 meal method,hany rambod(top contest guru) george farah(top contest guru) all apply the 6-8 meals a day principle,now if it aint broken why should we need to fix it? yes there are many ways to skin a cat,i prefer my guys doing cardio on a treadmill,yet some guys swear by bicycle or cross trainer...there is probably no evidence out there to say what cardio equipment is better but guys seemed to get shredded using either one...


its nice to see u on the forum giving your views but also dont come on here and try and convince everyone that what they have been doing is absolute bullshit,each person to their own view...its nice to have you here giving us input and this shouldbnt be your last post on the forum... but realise that some people will keep on doing things their own way

Very interesting. RnR can you please stats what gains you got on the diet as well as what you bf% was before and after. I think every diet has there own ways of working with benefits.

DJ wrote:

Rocknrolla wrote: I was just trying to introduce you guys to a way of dieting that is working wonders for me and many other people, as well as let you know that everything you are doing is based on bro-science, not actual science.

i hear u bud,but u gotta look at things from other ways to even "bro science" has merit,i have read loads of books about nutrition etc and some of the best info i have ever read is from a man named Chris Aceto,he is jay cutlers old trainer and nutritionist and one of the most respected nutritionists of the top athletes in the ifbb, he applies the 6 meal method,hany rambod(top contest guru) george farah(top contest guru) all apply the 6-8 meals a day principle,now if it aint broken why should we need to fix it? yes there are many ways to skin a cat,i prefer my guys doing cardio on a treadmill,yet some guys swear by bicycle or cross trainer...there is probably no evidence out there to say what cardio equipment is better but guys seemed to get shredded using either one...


its nice to see u on the forum giving your views but also dont come on here and try and convince everyone that what they have been doing is absolute bullshit,each person to their own view...its nice to have you here giving us input and this shouldbnt be your last post on the forum... but realise that some people will keep on doing things their own way

We are on the same page bro. I am in no way trying to round up people to use intermittent fasting. If people find what they are currently doing is working for the then they must stick to it for sure.

All I am saying is that if someone is not enjoying the 6 meals a day thing, e.g because they don't like preparing many small meals for the day, or they don't like eating like a lady, they musn't feel obligated to do so because they think that it will boost their metabolism or whatever. That is just not true.

They can do intermittent fasting and feast in the gardens of troy at night. And they can see as good results, if not better than the 6 meals a day approach.



@ Freak

Height 5'7

weight before: 70 kg
Weight now: 70kg

bf% before: 10.5%
bf% after: 8.5%

How have u been on this diet???