Post workout carbs, High GI or Low GI?

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13 May 2011 19:38 #67040 by Diego
I wanted to know what kind of carbs my post workout meal should have. My goal is putting on lean mass and reducing BF. So far after a grueling weight session i eat a bowl of Honey Cheerios with milk. Obviously a High GI carb rich meal. I am under the perception that High GI carbs consumed immediately after a workout are good in terms of glucose levels and spiking insulin. But is this method good for losing BF and gaining lean mass? should i rather consume low GI carbs such as oats or brown rice?

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13 May 2011 20:44 #67043 by SNOK1986
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No no dont do oats or high fiber carbs in ur post workout... Immediately after ur workout have ur whey shake and add glucose powder to ur shake 15 - 20g and mix it with ur whey shake, will taste sweeter but thats all u need for ur quick acting carbs to replenish ur glycogen levels. Ur meal after ur whey shake and glucose powder should be some sort of lean meat and some carbs (depending on the time of the day of course)..

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13 May 2011 22:17 #67047 by Diego
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ok thanks a lot!

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07 Jun 2011 13:05 #68352 by shaunrsa
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As Snok says. Remember its the one time of the day you actually DO want an insulin spike. Shortly after training. You want to replenish glycogen levels and get nutrients to the muscles quickly.

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07 Jun 2011 13:17 #68357 by Empire
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i would go anywhere from 50-80g fast acting carbs post work out and then eventually add in 20-50g of slow acting carbs in your post work out meal 1 hour after your shake,.

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09 Jul 2011 18:07 #70333 by SuThy
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hey guys.
what about after a cardio session of no longer than 30 minutes (HIIT)?
would one still consume high GI carbs?
this is for a 6 o clock HIIT session.

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31 Jul 2011 17:33 #71768 by SuThy
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anyone please?

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31 Jul 2011 18:14 - 31 Jul 2011 18:17 #71769 by SNOK1986
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If i was doing cardio in the morn id have a whey shake and a banana about 30min before cardio and then after cardio have a whey shake and glucose powder mixed, hour later have ur first meal with protein, fats and starchy carbs like potato,rice etc.
U want ur body to recover as soon as possible. Fast acting carbs will help u recover quicker.

Start a new thread if u want people to answer ur questions. U hi jacking a thread here.

Cardio, lifting weights they all deplete glycogen.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha
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01 Aug 2011 09:36 #71787 by Etwa
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i have read eating a green apple post workout also provides a insulin spike. its got some simple carbs so that should also do the trick right?

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01 Aug 2011 11:16 #71790 by m0lt3n
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maybe it does. But an apple is a good source of fibres which will slow uptake. So...it is a case of do u want 6 out of 10 or 9 out of 10?
plus fructose is not as good a carb source as glukose/dextrose

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01 Aug 2011 11:22 #71791 by Etwa
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good point.

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01 Aug 2011 11:44 #71794 by Deadgoat
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I'm pretty sure fructose doesn't trigger insulin

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01 Aug 2011 12:08 #71797 by Etwa
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how sure is pretty sure?

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01 Aug 2011 12:16 #71799 by DC EVO
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Diego wrote: I wanted to know what kind of carbs my post workout meal should have. My goal is putting on lean mass and reducing BF. So far after a grueling weight session i eat a bowl of Honey Cheerios with milk. Obviously a High GI carb rich meal. I am under the perception that High GI carbs consumed immediately after a workout are good in terms of glucose levels and spiking insulin. But is this method good for losing BF and gaining lean mass? should i rather consume low GI carbs such as oats or brown rice?


Work on 0.8g fast acting carbs (malto,dextrose etc) & 0.4g protein per kilo of bodyweight post workout.

I actually do this pre and post but I consume very little starchy carbs at any other time.

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01 Aug 2011 12:18 - 01 Aug 2011 12:20 #71800 by Deadgoat
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Etwa wrote: how sure is pretty sure?

John Berardi wrote: Fructose is a simple carbohydrate unit, but it's structurally different from glucose. Due to its structure, it can possibly cause GI problems and/or decrease fluid uptake with exercise. Fructose, unlike other simple carbs, has to be "treated" in the liver and it reaches the muscle slowly.

Finally, sucrose consists of glucose and fructose units bonded together. Therefore, upon digestion, you get glucose and fructose in the GI (and the benefits and consequences of each).

Based on the three studies I reviewed (Blom et al 1987, ven Den Burgh et al 1996, Piehl et al 2000), it appears that dextrose is 72% faster than fructose for muscle glycogen resynthesis . As a result, at the end of 8 hours, muscle glycogen was 30% higher with dextrose ingestion. However, in another study, at the end of 4 hours, muscle glycogen was 15% higher with maltodextrin ingestion vs. dextrose. So dextrose kicks fructose's butt although malto beats up on dextrose.


Link:

www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/leaneating_2.htm


Fructose doesn't increase blood sugar and therefore does not require insulin to be released

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01 Aug 2011 12:24 #71803 by Etwa
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thats a boat load of reading right there! thanks goat! bwhaaa!

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01 Aug 2011 12:26 #71805 by Deadgoat
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No problem

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01 Aug 2011 12:26 #71806 by 00pump
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Deadgoat wrote:

Etwa wrote: how sure is pretty sure?

John Berardi wrote: Fructose is a simple carbohydrate unit, but it's structurally different from glucose. Due to its structure, it can possibly cause GI problems and/or decrease fluid uptake with exercise. Fructose, unlike other simple carbs, has to be "treated" in the liver and it reaches the muscle slowly.

Finally, sucrose consists of glucose and fructose units bonded together. Therefore, upon digestion, you get glucose and fructose in the GI (and the benefits and consequences of each).

Based on the three studies I reviewed (Blom et al 1987, ven Den Burgh et al 1996, Piehl et al 2000), it appears that dextrose is 72% faster than fructose for muscle glycogen resynthesis . As a result, at the end of 8 hours, muscle glycogen was 30% higher with dextrose ingestion. However, in another study, at the end of 4 hours, muscle glycogen was 15% higher with maltodextrin ingestion vs. dextrose. So dextrose kicks fructose's butt although malto beats up on dextrose.


Link:

www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/leaneating_2.htm


Fructose doesn't increase blood sugar and therefore does not require insulin to be released


Hence the reason diabetics use it...

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