First Novice BB Comp

Hi there,

please help me? im just over 7 weeks out of my first novice comp and my details are as follows;

Age 28
height 1.78cm
weight 89kg

diet as follows;

Meal 1

80g All bran flakes with fat free milk and sweetner and 3eggwhite and 1 whole egg

Meal 2

200g chicken
140g Sweet patato boiled no suger no nothing

Meal 3

same as meal 2

Meal 4

200g chicken
1 apple

Meal 5

9 egg whites

Meal 6

200g fish

i train in the mornings with some cardio at night

Please assist

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Hi there,

please help me? im just over 7 weeks out of my first novice comp and my details are as follows;

Age 28
height 1.78cm
weight 89kg

diet as follows;

Meal 1

80g All bran flakes with fat free milk and sweetner and 3eggwhite and 1 whole egg

Meal 2

200g chicken
140g Sweet patato boiled no suger no nothing

Meal 3

same as meal 2

Meal 4

200g chicken
1 apple

Meal 5

9 egg whites

Meal 6

200g fish

i train in the mornings with some cardio at night

Please assist
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Go to the contact us tab and email admin for DJ's contact details,he builds custom diets and you can't go wrong following one of his diets, just look what he has done for this guy www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/10-diet...eks-out-from-contest

Diets looks like its missing quite a bit for 7 weeks still out....
Calories are low for that far out is what i think....

Mail DJ, as kkkyle said... he will help with a pre-contest diet.
Hope you come right before its too late... else you will go in too flat.

Good luck and post pics when you can.

hey thanx man,

yes i'm struggling a bit with body fat around my midsection? my legs are getting leaner and so are my back its the front upper body that i struggle with.

I'm currently using Masteron and T3

Masteron - 300mg on Tuesday and 100mg on Thursday

T3 i'm using 3 tablets everyday.

this is my first time and my skin is very thick struggeling to show the veins.

well i want to compete around 82kg?

i have ask for DJ details, just awaiting response?

Well just for starters, keep the hormone stable. So keep your shots the same dose, also masteron in my personal experience is a waste unless you under 10 % body fat, it will not help with losing bodyfat, not in my experience anyway..

I agree with pump, where is the test? Its also needed or you will lose precious muscle with dieting. Also what dose of Masteron and T3.

thanx man,

the only way i will learn; is when someone points out that i'm doing something wrong.

wel i'm not sure what my bf% is at this stage.

well, masteron 100 3ml on Tuesday and 1ml on Thursday
T3 60mg a day

what should i be looking at when i look for test?

Test Prop...1ml every 3 days.. and eventually taper off!
You need MUCH more fish in your diet to get the skin thinner... And fishoils.

The masteron... If you doing 4ml a week... keep each shot to 2ml if its twice a week... like pump said... keep the SAME dosage for each injection... 1ml of test prop and 1ml of Mast Prop every 3rd day!

Your diet at the moment should be: Egg whites, Chicken and fish and mixed veggies... with some carbs before your workout... Oats at bfast... almonds (16) at other meals during the day for fats (No Carbs)

YOU NEED TO GET YOUR BF MEASURED ASAP... even DJ will ask you for this!

Cardio should be 20 min sessions in the evening... HIT cardio.

Perworkout should also have no carbs. and also... lots of L-Glutamine during the day... 1/2 a teaspoon like 4 times a day...
And i have been using Universal Supercuts (2 as you wake, 2 as you sleep), with some great results!!

Mr_SA wrote: Test Prop...1ml every 3 days.. and eventually taper off!
You need MUCH more fish in your diet to get the skin thinner... And fishoils.

The masteron... If you doing 4ml a week... keep each shot to 2ml if its twice a week... like pump said... keep the SAME dosage for each injection... 1ml of test prop and 1ml of Mast Prop every 3rd day!

Your diet at the moment should be: Egg whites, Chicken and fish and mixed veggies... with some carbs before your workout... Oats at bfast... almonds (16) at other meals during the day for fats (No Carbs)

YOU NEED TO GET YOUR BF MEASURED ASAP... even DJ will ask you for this!

Cardio should be 20 min sessions in the evening... HIT cardio.

Perworkout should also have no carbs. and also... lots of L-Glutamine during the day... 1/2 a teaspoon like 4 times a day...
And i have been using Universal Supercuts (2 as you wake, 2 as you sleep), with some great results!!

and this is why guys look like string beans on stage...hit cardio is the biggest reason for guys over training and results stopping close to show time

dieting on fish and egg whites make u look like u are an Ethiopian runner hence the reason people don't do it any more!stick to what u know best mr_sa which is hiding in the corners and stealing everyone elses work!

Thesner wrote: Hi there,

please help me? im just over 7 weeks out of my first novice comp and my details are as follows;

Age 28
height 1.78cm
weight 89kg

diet as follows;

Meal 1

80g All bran flakes with fat free milk and sweetner and 3eggwhite and 1 whole egg

Meal 2

200g chicken
140g Sweet patato boiled no suger no nothing

Meal 3

same as meal 2

Meal 4

200g chicken
1 apple

Meal 5

9 egg whites

Meal 6

200g fish

i train in the mornings with some cardio at night

Please assist

Thesner wrote: yes i'm struggling a bit with body fat around my midsection? my legs are getting leaner and so are my back its the front upper body that i struggle with.

I'm currently using Masteron and T3

Masteron - 300mg on Tuesday and 100mg on Thursday

T3 i'm using 3 tablets everyday.

ok the reasons for the skin being thick is because you arent lean enough,you are holding water behind from excess estrogen and from carb sensitivity. what type of cardio are you doing and for how long each day?60mcg of t3 is alot for 1 hit, your diet lacks calories and lacks alot of red meat,your carbs are in the wrong place and eating low calories is just going to slow down your metabolism you are eating around 2300 calories a day and using high t3 which is gonna make u flatten out alot, koe007 who is about that same weight as u is close on 3500calories for the whole of his prep and only recently have we cut the calories down at 3 weeks out.

i think u are hoping that t3 and lack of calories is gonna lean you out,it will but u will loose alot of muscle mass at the same time,and u will look flat...

have u been battling to sleep at all? have u been going to pass a stool once to twice a day? are u finding it difficult to wake up in the morning? are you battling with feeling cold and lethargic during the day?dry skin on your hands?

how often are you training? how often are u doing cardio? how long is your training sessions? when was the last time you had a cheat/carb up meal?

what fat burners other than the t3 are u using?

DJ wrote:

Mr_SA wrote: Test Prop...1ml every 3 days.. and eventually taper off!
You need MUCH more fish in your diet to get the skin thinner... And fishoils.

The masteron... If you doing 4ml a week... keep each shot to 2ml if its twice a week... like pump said... keep the SAME dosage for each injection... 1ml of test prop and 1ml of Mast Prop every 3rd day!

Your diet at the moment should be: Egg whites, Chicken and fish and mixed veggies... with some carbs before your workout... Oats at bfast... almonds (16) at other meals during the day for fats (No Carbs)

YOU NEED TO GET YOUR BF MEASURED ASAP... even DJ will ask you for this!

Cardio should be 20 min sessions in the evening... HIT cardio.

Perworkout should also have no carbs. and also... lots of L-Glutamine during the day... 1/2 a teaspoon like 4 times a day...
And i have been using Universal Supercuts (2 as you wake, 2 as you sleep), with some great results!!

and this is why guys look like string beans on stage...hit cardio is the biggest reason for guys over training and results stopping close to show time

dieting on fish and egg whites make u look like u are an Ethiopian runner hence the reason people don't do it any more!stick to what u know best mr_sa which is hiding in the corners and stealing everyone elses work!

And this is why DJ is doing all my diets from bulking all the way to my pre contest prep. The only guy i trust to help me and he knows what his talking about!

All the way Fakey I agree, Never worked with a trainer like Dj and I studied nutrition and exercise prescription.
Bud if I were you id wait till next year if you are not sure post pics we will give you honest building criticism Get hold of Dj now and start your prep work properly.

hey thanx man,

Well i'm training 5-6 days a week in the mornings target 1 body part per day - training sessions is a hour to 1 hour 15min depends on the the muscle group like legs are 1hour 15 min. cardio is 4 times a week for an hour l at night - I'm pressed for time and i don't know if i should change to evening training i'm scared i'll mess up!???

20min cycling - 20min steps - 20min treadmill @ incline of 11 speed 6

wel going 2-3 timies daily to the stool??

feeling a bit tired - no cheat meals

fatburners i'm useing hydroxycut from muscletech a bit expensive but i thought i'll give it a shot!!

other then that I'm using cyt3 in the mornings before i train??

i'm sleeping ok - when i sleep i sleep!!!

Like i said my back are lean and my legs are getting there its just my abs man thats lacking.....

hey thanx man,

i'll keep it in mind!!!

I think that training 6days a week is over kill,u should cut back,if u aren't getting lean over the belly then is just gonna take more time to diet but I do think your diet is lacking calories in my opinion.

hey guys, i personally know Thes. he trains the hardest of any of the guys at our gym. This guys has got allot of potential.

Thick legs, thick back and arms. agree all he needs to do is work on the midsection.

DJ, you mentioned he is probably getting in about 2800 cal as per his diet. how much should he be getting in then? 3300? should he up his protein, carbs and fats by how much? just scared he ups his carbs by too much and picks up weight (not muscle).

you mention he might be carb sensative, what does that mean, should he cut back on carbs and up his fats and protein then?

Should he also stick to only getting in carbs pre and post workout. With the T3 and other cutting agents he is using i think T3 must be taken on a empty belly, will eating carbs ahead of taking T3 counteract the T3 or cutting agents?

thanks guys!

Hey Thanx Buddy!!!

Your words are to kind!!!!!! the best gym partner i've ever had and the longest!!!!! he he he

T3 morning and evening, instead of utilising carbs as an energy source when they are required they are stored due to incorrect timing. Pre-Post and breakfast should be most carbs. Source of carbs are also important. There is no generic way to a pre-contest diet, DJ monitors your weight, progress and response to certain foods to develop a diet suited to you, let Thesner contact him and take it from there, if you are gonna spend all the money on your prep in regard to juice and supplements it will be a waste if not done properly. Rather pay Dj's small fee it really is considering what you get in knowledge and help and do it properly.

the problem is I'm training in the mornings @ 5 O clock? after that i have my breakfast and no carbs after 18h00? so my last two meals no carbs?

If i change my training times to night will it be better? i'm scared it will bomb out my pre contest?

Suppose the real question is also do you absolutely HAVE to take T3 on a empty belly? doing weights on a empty belly is not advised, but if you want to take T3 with that will taking 50g of oats 30-40 min prior to working out interfere...

Its all fine and dandy saying this and that,untill I can see pics of him I can't judge what I am doing,its like buying a car cos u saw the post online and u go and get to pick it up and its a write off. I have asked for pictures as to see where he is.

No one said u have to take t3 on an empty belly,taking that 60mcg of t3 in one shot isn't the the best,I would split it up to morning and night.

What u have to realise is that carbs aren't always the devil,they will help in fueling the metabolism, I mean 80g of all bran and 280 of sweet potato a day is minimal for doing weight training,cardio,living,breathing and functioning mentally.

Untill I see what you look like I can't say where I would adjust carbs,fats or anything like that...also 7weeks out only doing cardio 4x a week isn't enough if u are battling with weight,I would also substitute proteins,with some chicken,some fish,some red meat,

Also your protein count is low,egg whites and fish are fast digesting proteins and I am pretty sure u are gonna starve half the time after those meals.