Mental health

Good day guys.

I have a question regarding extreme jealousy paranoia while being on a cycle? Anyone experienced this before and is there something that can be taken to help with it?

Regards.

Swanmeister9 wrote: Good day guys.

I have a question regarding extreme jealousy paranoia while being on a cycle? Anyone experienced this before and is there something that can be taken to help with it?

Regards.

There has to be a reason or hisory for extreme jealousy, the anxiety can make it worse. What substances are you using?

I was on 600mg(each) test e,tren e and equi once a week with 4.5iu HGH daily.

Hi Swanmeister,

I experience extreme paranoia when running Tren. I also had a short fuse on a Deca and Test cycle, but only had the issue with Deca once, never again after that.

I have combatted this with: calm music, stay away from social media (unless for motivational or religious material), schedule relaxing activities (such as a hike or a hunt) and be mindful. Take time to focus on how good your life is and how good your wife/girlfriend is. I found that my faith helps a lot with calming me down.

Some guys may find cannabis helpful to relax and sleep but others will also experience paranoia from it. I personally don't enjoy it.

What cycle are you running?

Are you running any npp or deca?

I was on 600mg Test E , Tren E and Equi once a week with 4.5 iu HGH daily.

It mainly boils down to insecurities that seem to stem out more when on gear. That is also big doses, how much EQ, EQ increases anxiety on its own. Tren without being able to control your head is a no go drug. The insecurities and jealousy again stem mainly from cognitive distortions/ catastrophic thinking. CBT helps wonders with this type of thing, if there has been cheating before or if you have cheated then that makes thinks a bit more difficult, however the simplest of all is to discontinue the drugs and sort your head out before attempting them again and next time use smaller doses.

Swanmeister9 wrote: I was on 600mg Test E , Tren E and Equi once a week with 4.5 iu HGH daily.

600mg Tren E is really unnecessary. Tren will bring out the worst in any man on a bad day. Now how bad is your worst is the question. That dose plus EQ will add to anxiety considerably.

Tren E should be split up into 2 shots per week. The spikes and dips in unstable blood levels from once a week shots also adds to the emotional rollercoaster. I notice a clear difference.

Next time stick with 300mg/week, especially if you are already stacking other drugs with the test and you'll cope much better. Tren is also not necessary as a bulking agent. Deca works almost just as well.

Honestly, stay away from tren, it's just horrible unless you need to use it if you compete.

So I've prepped on tren, masteron and I will probably never use tren ever again. I find it way to harsh on the mental health even st 200mg a week. Even at 600mg test you going to have mental health issues, been there, been on the anti depressants, got the t-shirt.

Thanks guys. I have tried to use urbanol while on that cycle and that stuff made me immune to any type of situation and Ive decided to stop all at once as I was only focussing on the wrong stuff all the time. But I must say the results I got was insane,but not worth it.

No way to live life on any type of benzo / derivative, unless there is medical reason (I can't think of one, bar acute use).

Just tone it down, slowly slowly catch a monkey. I will never use tren again, I have no requirement if I balance the pro and con. Even if you could sustain a cycle like that, it's eventually going to catch up one way or another. All of us / most of us have used silly doses, but with maturity and understanding, those numbers have become seriously dilated.

I have issues even on only 200mg Tren E a week. On any Eq dose higher than 400mg a week I get Anxiety and panic attacks so just stick with max 350 PGW Eq.

I will never use tren in my life ever again. Actually no 19 Nor.

I am glad most guys are now jumping on the lower safer dosage train...

I like tren, not Ace though, E is ok. The blend is crazy lol, almost a guaranteed divorce.

200mg once a week with test 250mg works well, but after about 15 weeks you can feel its done damage.

Younger years it was ok, but when you go 40+ , it fcking chows you after a longish cycle. The days of 150mg EOD are long gone.

00pump wrote: No way to live life on any type of benzo / derivative, unless there is medical reason (I can't think of one, bar acute use).

Just tone it down, slowly slowly catch a monkey. I will never use tren again, I have no requirement if I balance the pro and con. Even if you could sustain a cycle like that, it's eventually going to catch up one way or another. All of us / most of us have used silly doses, but with maturity and understanding, those numbers have become seriously dilated.

I have been given urbanol for use in mornings and alzam at night. However, I don't use everyday but when I feel like I need too... but honestly, at current, I feel they don't do much for me... esp the urbanol... thought doc prescribed me weak stuff? Not sure why it works that well for you guys and not for me?

Wayne wrote:

00pump wrote: No way to live life on any type of benzo / derivative, unless there is medical reason (I can't think of one, bar acute use).

Just tone it down, slowly slowly catch a monkey. I will never use tren again, I have no requirement if I balance the pro and con. Even if you could sustain a cycle like that, it's eventually going to catch up one way or another. All of us / most of us have used silly doses, but with maturity and understanding, those numbers have become seriously dilated.

I have been given urbanol for use in mornings and alzam at night. However, I don't use everyday but when I feel like I need too... but honestly, at current, I feel they don't do much for me... esp the urbanol... thought doc prescribed me weak stuff? Not sure why it works that well for you guys and not for me?

Normally it's prescribed over xanor as there is a belief it's easier to come off. These meds are not meant to completely override your mind, you still need to put the effort in and be kind to your body and invest in yourself to create a better mental health state.

What is happening that you feel you need it? Are you getting chest pain, struggling to concentrate, hands go clamy, elevated heart rate, feel of impending doom?

Mindfulness is by far a much more powerful tool than the use of acute benzos, it just takes daily practice.

00pump wrote:

Wayne wrote:

00pump wrote: No way to live life on any type of benzo / derivative, unless there is medical reason (I can't think of one, bar acute use).

Just tone it down, slowly slowly catch a monkey. I will never use tren again, I have no requirement if I balance the pro and con. Even if you could sustain a cycle like that, it's eventually going to catch up one way or another. All of us / most of us have used silly doses, but with maturity and understanding, those numbers have become seriously dilated.

I have been given urbanol for use in mornings and alzam at night. However, I don't use everyday but when I feel like I need too... but honestly, at current, I feel they don't do much for me... esp the urbanol... thought doc prescribed me weak stuff? Not sure why it works that well for you guys and not for me?

Normally it's prescribed over xanor as there is a belief it's easier to come off. These meds are not meant to completely override your mind, you still need to put the effort in and be kind to your body and invest in yourself to create a better mental health state.

What is happening that you feel you need it? Are you getting chest pain, struggling to concentrate, hands go clamy, elevated heart rate, feel of impending doom?

Mindfulness is by far a much more powerful tool than the use of acute benzos, it just takes daily practice.

Doing much better but it was this anxious feeling that was not exactly chest pain but like "butterfly's" in the chest, not sleeping, having bouts of anger and snapping then feeling over-whelmed and not able to concentrate properly on whatever I need to do...

Go listen to some Cat Steven's, chill out, don't let life get to you *smile*

At those doseages of eq and tren what you're feeling is par for the course. I'm coming to the end of my first ever tren cycle (at the tender age of 48) and can simply suggest u drop your dose immediately and by at least 50%: see how u go. One (or two) inj of tren ace a week isn't helpful either. 3 shots minimum should make 4a smoother flight. GL

The EQ did not work for me. It made me super anxious, gave me panic attacks and sleepless nights. Obviously dosage plays a role and others might have had a better experience. Personally I would stay away from EQ.