Hypertension

I went for a pre operation examination on Monday and the Doc told me that I currently have high blood pressure (he does not know that I use roids) and I was given medication to bring my blood pressure down before my operation. I was on a Test Cyp 700mg/w for 12 weeks and Deca 600mg/w for the first 8 weeks and front loaded with 50mg dbol per day for the first 4 week. PCT was pregnyl 500ui E3D, Cloimid 100mg for 5 days and 50mg for another 5day, started Kesser 40mg/d for 3 weeks after the Cloimid.
I have never had any Hypertension problems in the past, even in my drinking and smoking days, will my blood pressure return to normal overtime or should I prepare myself chronic hypertension???

go read my post I wrote on hypertension in the general section.. it will give you a better understanding of it and how to treat it with medication and with natrual alternatives...

speak to me about anything else you need to know and will gladly help.... it all depends on what is causing your hypertension what are your readins? so I can determine what the damage is, if you don't get it under control you will cause issues with your kidneys and heart... did you have protein in your urine and / or blood? if so how much protein?

sweet

Thanks 00pump, checked out your post about Hypertension, good info man. The Doc did not give me the reading of my blood pressure, will get it when I see him again. I did go to for a cholesterol test hope to get the results today.

sweet get the results, could just be from the gear.... I have to take large ammounts of letro to keep my bp under control when taking high androgenic compounds.. I have nearlly reversed my hypertension which medical doctors said i will be on for the rest of my life.... so did every other specialist I have seen...

let me know and i'll guide you where I can... biggest thing is need to check the protein in the urine and if you have any blood... also maybe look at doing a scan on your heart and see if its enlarged at all... my left side is by neglecting my blood pressure...

Thanks for the help will like to keep in contact by email if its okay with you my email is EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED.

Try keep it to the forum as much as possible unless its something really private. That way everyone can gain from the information and maybe share / add points.

sweet...

My blood pressure was 180/110, it has dropped to 160/80 since been on medication, the colestrol test that was done shows that my colestrol is normal, I have no inlargement of the hart and no protein leak.
I am very sure that it must be from the gear I took???? What you think 00pump???

I am starting a Test prop, Tren act, whinny an anavar cycle on Sunday. Will I be fine if I take my blood pressure medication, I also bought a blood pressure device to monitor my blood pressure.

My cycle looks like this

Week 1-12 Test Prop 150mg/EOD
Week 1-8 Tren act 80mg/EOD
Week 9-12 Anavar 40mg/day
Week 9-12 Whinny 20mg/day

PCT
Week 1-14 Pregnyl 500iu E3D
Week 14-15 100mg Clomid ED for 5 days
Week 17-18 50mg Clomid ED for 5 days
Week 19 -22 40mg Kesser ED for 21 days

Iesh dude, not on thos readings... you still way to high... how long you been on your BP medication it takes around 2 weeks + for the plamza levels to stabalize from your BP medication...

I'm going to be honest, i think you going to put your body under strain... if you are going to go this route, I would suggest HIGH doses of letro, others would disagre but I suffer from severe hypertension and if I use 1.5mg a letro a day my BP stays under raps...

Are you in JHB? you need to take the offramp off after Boysens can't remeber the name.. turn off, then turn right at the traffic light, over the highway, then you should have a garage on your left hand side just past that is a 'chinese' place on your right, turn in there and their is a chinese health shop...

Its Called Hypertension Tea by SACM... if you take this 3 times a day, on a reading of say 160/80 you will drop to about 137 over 65... it is very effective and works in just minutes... but doesn't last _THAT_ long you need to take it 3 times a day with that sort of readings if you thinking about going on a cycle... you need to make sure you get that bottom number allot lower...

What BP medication are you on? I still feel your BP is way to high and you need to bring in another compound to help treat it... something like amloc at around 10mg.... speak to your doctor, but try get your readings down to about 130/140 over 60, yes many will say 60 is to low, don't listen rather have that reading lower and this tea some how effects your bottom reading allot more than the top, so does amloc, after a week or so on amloc I dropped in the 60's... that means your resting heart rate is good, 110 you are LUCKY YOU NEVER HAD A HEART ATTACK!!! i've been right up at 190's on my top readings but 110, dam dude!!!!

Please do me a favour get this tea, don't listen to what a doc will say, they don't believe in this stuff, I know it works!!! I have done every inch of research as doctors just love to perscribe medication and not help you, they will say this medication can help cure you, bullshit!!! its a block buster drug designed for the rest of your life, but the side effects of BP medication is not good...... I don't even want to scare you, because its very real... you really want to get yourself off the medication and not try live your life on it....

try the products I mentioned in the General section under Hypertension (side effects)

I have done every test under the sun, even a freakin scope to check out my kidneys thats not fun!

And dude, if your BP is related to your kidneys I would HIGHLY RECOMEND NOT TAKING TREN!

Tren is a BIG NO GO WHEN HAVING HYPERTENSION.....

If you want you can change it to something like, EQ / Anavar / Winnie, and use Pregnly during the cycle to prevent a complete shut down...

40mg kessar is to much for PCT, keep it at 20mg... I would just do 100mg clomid for 5 days with 20mg kessar and then follow the kessar for another 25 or so days...

And the question you asked is it from gear, well it could be but it could be other things, what was your protein like in your urine and did they pick up blood if so what was the readings of both counts?

@ PUMPS, You say 137/65 is good BP reading...

MY BP has been mostly around 140/90, my doc said thats the high side of NORMAL??? last i checked, think it was 130/80, the worst its been was 180/105..

Doc did say i must do cardio, will jogging, playing a sport such as cricket help?

All sports will push up your BP while you doing it, so with readings up at 105 you need to be carefull, because thats resting heart rate at that reading.... but take it easy, ease on a bike and about an hour after your session it will drop...

there is a number of reasons for high bp, plaque is a big one, make sure you have allot of jungle oakes that helps get rid of plaque... 140/90 is pre-hypertension... depending on the size you are your top reading will be higher as the heart has to pump that much harder to feed your body.... but as long as your resting rate is low thats what matters...

I'd say 90 is to high, in the 100's you are 50% more seseptable to a heart attack, specially when you pushing heavy weights... and for ever bassis point after that you are at higher risk, forgot the ratio out of my head, think I wrote it in my article under General section...

I'm telling you now, its water that changes your electrolytes to favour sodium... higher doses of an AI will help this on a cycle, I require 1.5 / 2mg of letro to keep my BP at bay... for other that don't suffer hypertesion wont need as much.... I can't have a drop of water or it goes up, even creating monohydrate pushes me up allot!

thats why I love EQ so much, it really doesn't effect me much... but having readings like yours over a peroid of time is going to damage your heart and kidneys if it hasn't allready done this.... keep it safe bro!

get that tea I suggested above, its a natrual alternativev to medication and get a BP reader....

anything else you guys want to know, i'll try answer.

Ok, thanks alot for your advice and sharing you knowledge! I will check my pressure soon! Didnt know it was such a serious thing!

gertjgeyser wrote:

I went for a pre operation examination on Monday and the Doc told me that I currently have high blood pressure (he does not know that I use roids) and I was given medication to bring my blood pressure down before my operation. I was on a Test Cyp 700mg/w for 12 weeks and Deca 600mg/w for the first 8 weeks and front loaded with 50mg dbol per day for the first 4 week. PCT was pregnyl 500ui E3D, Cloimid 100mg for 5 days and 50mg for another 5day, started Kesser 40mg/d for 3 weeks after the Cloimid.
I have never had any Hypertension problems in the past, even in my drinking and smoking days, will my blood pressure return to normal overtime or should I prepare myself chronic hypertension???

what meds did he give you?

00Pump: I live in Secunda I will try and get hold of this Hypertension tea I just don’t know when. All other organs seem to be okay, I did not start my cycle on Sunday as I intended to, just to check what my BP is going to do.

Barbell: I am currently on 50mg of Losartan Potassium p/d.

prob coaprovel or zartan 50

thats a very low dose on the readings you are on.... you sure there was no blood or protein? did they do a protein check in your urine?

I have yet to see anyone with that reading with no blood or protein in their urine

No Blood or Protein in the urine, I might just be lucky I guess, I have been on the BP meds for 2 weeks now and blood pressure average is around 140/80.
If my BP levels stay at these levels do you think it will be okay to start my cycle as intended? Will it help if I change the Tren doses to 40mg/EOD????? I will monitor my BP pressure three times a day and use Lectro as you suggested??

Sorry to be the "dumbass" here, but when you guys say protein in urine, what exactly do you mean??

no, tren is a no go....

let me explain this all high androgenic steroids like test, etc are going to push your BP up..... yours is allready elevated, so its going to go high, maybe not for the first 2 weeks... if you going to go this route,, id say double your BP medication... thats what I used to do.... and then I was high....

i'm not a doctor so I can't say well taking 40mg of tren and that BP you on will be ok.... I doubt most doctors can either.... but from personal experience I really did experience the sides of tren with my BP pushing it up to around 180 / 100 when taking 600mg of coap!!! you taking 50mg dude... I was taking 600mg and it still pushed it up.... and took around 5 m,onths to start seeing my levels go down again... was very scary...

I wrote something under FAQ thread under general, explaining what gear you should/can take when suffering from hypertension...

good luck

Wayne wrote:

Sorry to be the "dumbass" here, but when you guys say protein in urine, what exactly do you mean??

When you get a urine test on those dip sticks, the one indicator indicates if there are proteins in your urine. There shouldn't be proteins in your urine but if there is it can be due to a number of reasons, including reasons that result from various health complications

Thanks 00pump I get you on the tren. If I use the Test Prop 150mg EOD for 12 weeks, Anavar 60 mg and Whinny 30mg ED from week 8 to 12. I also intend to take Heat and clen, 2 weeks Heat two weeks Clen on anf of from week 4 to weeks 12, should this be better or must I drop the test prop to? Then I will be doing an all orel cycle don't this it will be any good?

Clen and ephedrine will also dramatically increase your BP so you need to be careful using fat burners as well.

Also, there is no point in cycling the ephedrine with the clen because the ephedrine will prevent your adrenergic receptors from upregulating in the two weeks following clenbuterol usage.

I want to cycle the heat two weeks on and two weeks off, for the two weeks that I am off he heat I run the clen????

that will never work.... because the clen is potent and will shut down your receptors... so it will never give it time to recover seeing when you having the recovery you will be throwing in epahadrine...

Thanks for all the help, I think best is to take all the gear I bought for this cycle and chuck it in the bin.