Dutasteride vs Finasteride

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02 Mar 2010 16:36 #38569 by milktuds
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So, which one of the two is best? They basically look the same to me, but my doc says Avodart is better than Propecia. As for side effects I have heard bad stories about Finasteride, like depression, gyno, sexual dysfunction etc.

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02 Mar 2010 16:42 #38570 by Lesa
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Yep the side effects of fina are there big time but i have never heard of the other one someone please elaborate

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02 Mar 2010 16:48 #38573 by milktuds
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As far as I know the only difference is that Dutasteride inhibits both isoforms of 5-alpha reductase, Type I and Type II, while finasteride only inhibits Type II.

That's what I've read so far.

Would like to know if anyone has used it?

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02 Mar 2010 18:32 #38576 by Yohimbe
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Dutasteride is much more potent as it inhibits type 1 and type 2. I think it inhibits something like around 90% dht on 1mg per day dose whereas finasteride on 5mg per day will inhibit 70 odd %. But these doses are for severe prostate hypertrophy.

It will have the same sides as finasteride as it's doing the same thing, only more so, so if you have sides with finasteride you will with dutasteride.

It's also expensive. The dose is 0.5mg per day but it works out a lot more expensive than finasteride. If you want to use finasteride, use Proscar (generic) as this is 5mg tabs marketed for prostrate hypertrophy. Split the tabs in two and take half EOD.
Propecia is expensive because it's marketed as a baldness cure, not prostrate hypertrophy, so targeting a different market in tabs at 1mg.

IMO dutasteride is more potent, but finasteride will do the job for a fraction of the price.
What do you want it for baldness or prostrate issues?

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02 Mar 2010 19:41 #38578 by milktuds
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Baldness mainly, but also for my prostate on cycle.

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02 Mar 2010 20:41 #38584 by Yohimbe
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I think for the price difference finasteride will do the job.
But remember it only helps with test-winny, masteron, primo, proviron are already 5 alpha reduced compounds so it won't do anything.
Things like dbol and tren are inherently androgenic and there is minimal conversion to an androgen via alpha reductase, so it won't really help there either.
But it's a good idea to use finasteride on cycle for your prostrate

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02 Mar 2010 21:46 #38590 by Inja
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Like Yohimbe said, fina is better pricewise, and you really don't need to kill the DHT, just making sure it doesn't get out of hand is fine. I use 1mg EOD, have done so in all my cycles over 500mg test. Never had irreversible low libido side effects like you find on the interweb. I think that one must realise there is a difference between taking finasteride on cycle and taking it with normal androgen levels. The one controls DHT while the other flat out destroys it.

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03 Mar 2010 10:01 #38616 by milktuds
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For use off cycle which would you recommend?

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03 Mar 2010 11:22 #38631 by jackrabbit1
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Inja wrote:

.... the interweb......


Tapped into your "inner ZEF" there Inja? :laugh:

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03 Mar 2010 11:24 #38632 by jackrabbit1
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My training partne uses 1,25 mg Fincar daily for hirloss and hes not complaining. It takes quite a while to work properly. Something like 3-6 months.

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03 Mar 2010 19:04 #38681 by Yohimbe
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jackrabbit1 wrote:

My training partne uses 1,25 mg Fincar daily for hirloss and hes not complaining. It takes quite a while to work properly. Something like 3-6 months.


And not guaranteed to work-doesn't work so well on receding hairlines-mainly on thinning on the crown.
If it bothers you, save up for hair transplants-will work out cheaper in the long run :)

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03 Mar 2010 20:19 #38682 by milktuds
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Ag fuck it I'll just keep shaving my head. Easier. Will use it on cycle for my prostate.

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03 Mar 2010 20:37 #38683 by Yohimbe
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milktuds wrote:

Ag fuck it I'll just keep shaving my head. Easier. Will use it on cycle for my prostate.


:) :) Life would be easier without vanity, but how else do you explain sticking an inch of steal in your muscle and injecting oil into it so it stiffens up like a bitch, then doing the same thing the day after :P

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03 Mar 2010 22:34 #38696 by Inja
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jackrabbit1 wrote:

Inja wrote:

.... the interweb......


Tapped into your "inner ZEF" there Inja? :laugh:


;)

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04 Mar 2010 00:43 #38703 by Lesa
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Somone was telling me yesterday that there is an option of transplanting roots so that hair actually grows. Anyone heard of this or is it just one of those bs "i heard" stories

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04 Mar 2010 09:47 #38713 by Sting
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I've heard of this, seen it on some plastic syrgery program but they literally implant one root at a time so can you imagine the time it takes and you still dont have a full head of hair...mostly for receding hairlines etc.

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04 Mar 2010 23:21 #38763 by Yohimbe
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Lesa wrote:

Somone was telling me yesterday that there is an option of transplanting roots so that hair actually grows. Anyone heard of this or is it just one of those bs "i heard" stories


Thats how they do it-they cut a section of scalp from the side and back of your head and suture it closed, where the hair roots aren't genetically programmed to ever fall out (resistant to dht effects) and then transplant that hair onto the top of your head.
Because its your own hair there are no rejection issues. The hair falls out once transplanted and the roots go into a dormant phase for a few months and then start growing. Once they start growing it will carry on growing forever as it would have on the sides and back of your head.
There are apparently two ways of doing-one is FUE were they remove one hair at a time and sort of inject the hair follicle in the top of your head and the other is where they cut sections from the back and side of your scalp, then section this off and do micro grafts of 4-5 hair follicles at a time.

I saw one guy who had it done (normal transplant were the harvest sections of the scalp) and was quite impressed-you would never say it was transplanted.

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