Sleep

anyone else have problems with it, i average 2-3 hours a night, typical would be read to 11.30 odd doze off to 1.30 have a pee and a shake, doze off to 3.30 4am have gh then just prepare my stuff for gym, docs give me strong tabs, fall asleep and awake an hour later

You really need to go sort that problem out, there is no way your body can function on 2-3hrs sleep and then u gym on top of that. How long has this been a problem and when did it start?

are you stressed dude? Thats the only time when i lose sleep, other than that, you can put me on a pavement and ill doze off

since childhood beesting , well not as bad as it is now. as said i dont like sleeping tablets, they have given me short courses but they just make me fall asleep quicker but i still wake during the night usually every hour on the hour, most tabs that get given to me cause restless legs and hands and actually prevent me from falling asleep.

So have you been diagnosed with anything, im sure you have had plenty tests done?

And since when u sleep that is the time u only grow so being on Gh and what ever else is basically wasting ur money go get it sorted out dude.

dirkgreeff wrote:

are you stressed dude? Thats the only time when i lose sleep, other than that, you can put me on a pavement and ill doze off

yes , and it does make it worse, ones mind just keeps going and going, but have had this for quite sometime, as long as i could remember

Beesting wrote:

So have you been diagnosed with anything, im sure you have had plenty tests done?

to be honest know, docs usually put it down to stress , give a few tabs then i dont bother because i suppose just have learnt to accept it, i started drinking ages ago,because that would work, that quickly developed into a problem, hence i dont touch alcohol anymore

its been recomeneded i see a sleep clinic, then as i am about to commit it gets suggested i dont .......... :blush:

Dude, I have the same problem i'm on Xanor and Stilnox.. it puts me to sleep but I wake up then I fall asleep and wake up, I might sleep like 5 / 10 minutes then wake up like i had a fright.. the Xanor is a tranquilizer and the Stilnox is a hypnotic... no luck dude... also have to piss all the time! lol... when u started having this problem going to piss during the night? only on gear? or all the time... my kidneys are damanaged so I piss every night, ticks me off specially in winter when i really dont want to get up.. anyone want to donate me a bed pan? LOL

00pump wrote:

Dude, I have the same problem i'm on Xanor and Stilnox.. it puts me to sleep but I wake up then I fall asleep and wake up, I might sleep like 5 / 10 minutes then wake up like i had a fright.. the Xanor is a tranquilizer and the Stilnox is a hypnotic... no luck dude... also have to piss all the time! lol... when u started having this problem going to piss during the night? only on gear? or all the time... my kidneys are damanaged so I piss every night, ticks me off specially in winter when i really dont want to get up.. anyone want to donate me a bed pan? LOL

all the time, but i will admit its been slightly more frequent during the night while on gear ? i dont take any regular tabs though, i used to have a problem falling asleep, but now its reverse, i dont have too much problem falling asleep but staying asleep thats the problem.

luckily i am still growing but like snok said probably not anywhere near the potential of what i could be

@gearedup, well i think you should tell the doctors that u aren't going to settle for medication until you have been diagnosed with something, yes stress will interfere with sleeping patterns but can u honestly tell me that stress has been the number one factor affecting your sleep to such an extent since you were younger. I think that this is something really serious that you should sort out immediately if possible, and dont let the doctors tell you otherwise, I've come across a lot of doctors that talk a lot of shit and will prescribe anything they can to make cash and make you feel like they have helped you when infact they haven't

Beesting wrote:

@gearedup, well i think you should tell the doctors that u aren't going to settle for medication until you have been diagnosed with something, yes stress will interfere with sleeping patterns but can u honestly tell me that stress has been the number one factor affecting your sleep to such an extent since you were younger. I think that this is something really serious that you should sort out immediately if possible, and dont let the doctors tell you otherwise, I've come across a lot of doctors that talk a lot of shit and will prescribe anything they can to make cash and make you feel like they have helped you when infact they haven't

thanks beesting, just chat to a regular doc, or should i rather approach a sleep clinic ?

Jiss, you chaps have some issues...

Alcohol, sleeping meds ....
Seriously guys, you concerned about Kessar and potential cancer, but hell, think you have bigger things to worry about looking at this.

I would got to the sleep clinic and have a look what they say .... this is for both of you.

Stop with the meds bud, not good hey

Gearedup wrote:

thanks beesting, just chat to a regular doc, or should i rather approach a sleep clinic ?

Sleep clinic, you need to see someone who's specialised, if you go to a regular doc you will just be sent to someone else

Insomnia is one of my best friends. Since I started taking Gabatropin 4 months ago every night half an hour before going to bed I started feeling tired and then fell asleep. About two weeks ago it looks like I built up immunity against the stuff and stopped taking it. Will cycle it now and see what happens. The max I sleep at night is 6 hours.

I have probabbly one of the most stressfull jobs on the planet, hence I can't sleep.... easy solution quit my job or find a way to relax.. im not at the coast anymore so I cant surf to relax..

North_Boy1 wrote:

Insomnia is one of my best friends. Since I started taking Gabatropin 4 months ago every night half an hour before going to bed I started feeling tired and then fell asleep. About two weeks ago it looks like I built up immunity against the stuff and stopped taking it. Will cycle it now and see what happens. The max I sleep at night is 6 hours.

6 hours *droooooooooooooooool* agg, you know its not really the ammount of sleep its the broken sleep thats a problem. when i go away which i try do 3 times a year I sleep so well without taking anything. It's all because of Joburg.. PS put me on tren and i'll stay awake for a week, lol

00pump wrote:

I have probabbly one of the most stressfull jobs on the planet, hence I can't sleep.... easy solution quit my job or find a way to relax.. im not at the coast anymore so I cant surf to relax..

What do you do?

Pump - I am not eligible for this and I am not sure what your age is, but give it a try. You got nothing to lose and it's free:
Does it takes you longer than 30 minutes to fall asleep because you have an active mind or feel overly alert at bedtimes?

If so you may be eligible to take part in a master’s research study on insomnia at the University of Johannesburg where consultations and treatment will be free of charge.

Please contact me for further details on the study

**Due to the unpredictable nature of female hormones and their influence on sleep only men between the ages of 18 and 40 will be accepted into the study**

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Computer security for some big corporates and for a few government sites + their entire PBX infrastructure. the only time you hear from a client is when there is a problem... work 7 days a week and what feels like 24 hours a day, blackberry never stops, and if big sites (24 hour sites) go down I must work during the night. My misses HATES it and my phone, sometimes I take her out for dinner and must use one of my smart phones to Ssh into a server to do something or rush to car to get laptop out boot with 3g

Blame this to a broken government as the skill level in this country is shocking and I can’t find well qualified staff. All the highly skilled computer guys I know are either doing other stuff or left the country

North_Boy1 wrote:

Pump - I am not eligible for this and I am not sure what your age is, but give it a try. You got nothing to lose and it's free:
Does it takes you longer than 30 minutes to fall asleep because you have an active mind or feel overly alert at bedtimes?

If so you may be eligible to take part in a master’s research study on insomnia at the University of Johannesburg where consultations and treatment will be free of charge.

Please contact me for further details on the study

**Due to the unpredictable nature of female hormones and their influence on sleep only men between the ages of 18 and 40 will be accepted into the study**

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Thanks man, that sounds freaking awsome.. jeah, i'm taking hmm, what is it called, Stresam? during the day to help with my anxiety.. it helps keep my bp lowish due to helping me not freak out when the pressure is on like it is, day and night. thing is its stopped working so i've stopped taking them... I'm a walking pharmacist... lol .. it is actually not funny and as much as its masking 1 thing its damanging something else.. just need to move back to the coast and be poor lol

What skills you looking for?

00pump wrote:

North_Boy1 wrote:

Pump - I am not eligible for this and I am not sure what your age is, but give it a try. You got nothing to lose and it's free:
Does it takes you longer than 30 minutes to fall asleep because you have an active mind or feel overly alert at bedtimes?

If so you may be eligible to take part in a master’s research study on insomnia at the University of Johannesburg where consultations and treatment will be free of charge.

Please contact me for further details on the study

**Due to the unpredictable nature of female hormones and their influence on sleep only men between the ages of 18 and 40 will be accepted into the study**

JHB Gumtree ad.

Thanks man, that sounds freaking awsome.. jeah, i'm taking hmm, what is it called, Stresam? during the day to help with my anxiety.. it helps keep my bp lowish due to helping me not freak out when the pressure is on like it is, day and night. thing is its stopped working so i've stopped taking them... I'm a walking pharmacist... lol .. it is actually not funny and as much as its masking 1 thing its damanging something else.. just need to move back to the coast and be poor lol

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Netro wrote:

What skills you looking for?

10 years + unix skills, databases (mysql) / clustering, apache web server, postfix and qmail, C and PHP programing. and must know lots about telco, asterisk (coding asterisk dial plans) and understand asterisk's code (must be able to apply patches to bugs found in Digiums code) thats like the tip of the Iceburg...

So you need a computer geek in other words.

Would have offered my help, but I'm a Cisco boy only and would probably have to clone myself as well.