USN bashing

jackrabbit1 wrote: I really dont even care about the quality anymore. Maybe they do have the correct ingredients nowadays. When i bought their shit they were copying from well known successfull brands. Even the way its packaged!

If they buy creatine from pharma producers for R50/Kg and sell it at R450/Kg They are stealing.
Just because International company charges R450 they think its OK to charge the same.

F%$#%$# USN! The boycot continues.

die klomp ape het selfs red bull probeer copy met hul spike kak, toe ek 1 verniet gekry het en gedwing was om hom te drink, toe slaap ek soos n suigeling, dit kos my toe n red bull om weer wakker te word.

jo1 wrote: die klomp ape het selfs red bull probeer copy met hul spike kak, toe ek 1 verniet gekry het en gedwing was om hom te drink, toe slaap ek soos n suigeling, dit kos my toe n red bull om weer wakker te word.

lol

Hey Pete!

www.basicsupplements.co.za/l-glutamine

500g = R150

www.springbokpharmacy.co.za/ProductList....&SearchText=&Search=

USN Glutamine 200g+50g USN R 149.00 (Ooooooooooooo special!!!!!)

I wont even go furher.

jackrabbit1 wrote: Hey Pete!

www.basicsupplements.co.za/l-glutamine

500g = R150

www.springbokpharmacy.co.za/ProductList....&SearchText=&Search=

USN Glutamine 200g+50g USN R 149.00 (Ooooooooooooo special!!!!!)

I wont even go furher.

jip, en hulle koop in nog n groter maat as lsj, so hulle kry dit BAIE goedkoper ook.

voken skelms.

jy kry seker n lekker pay ou pete, van jou maandlikse pay is geld wat hulle destyds van my gesteel het, so jy kan maar jou pay tussen van ons ouens hier verdeel.

this thread beats the jokes thread!

:laugh:

So wat van ON(Optimum Nutrition)-L-glutamine500g @R519 - supplementworld.co.za
Mc Donalds is also American that does make it good for you the Yanks have got awsome products dont get me wrong (I'm not that naive) but you cant honestly believe all the bullshit they tell you.

pete wrote: :laugh:

So wat van ON(Optimum Nutrition)-L-glutamine500g @R519 - supplementworld.co.za
Mc Donalds is also American that does make it good for you the Yanks have got awsome products dont get me wrong (I'm not that naive) but you cant honestly believe all the bullshit they tell you.

Yep, and that's why I buy absolutely all my supplements from BasicSupplements. Anecdotal evidence means absolutely nothing to me and I only use stuff with clear scientific evidence....

Also real men don't care if it tastes like a strawberry milkshake, raw whey all the way ! :evil:

So what do you guys suggest I should use? Because I actually use their products and see good results. Do you guys rip them off because you simply don’t like the way they run their business or is it that it doesn’t work for you? Just want some friendly advise.

I cant see anything wrong with basic supplements I think their a no nonsense company.

Just remember that taste does differs the more we support the industry the further it will go.

Go do some research.. they have been on a number of occasion's found to state X amount of protein, etc on their packaging and been tested to show half that amount. As I said this has not only happened once. In my eyes that is being ripped off and them being crooks.

If they never lied I would never have had a problem with them. Yes you might get results with them, but take a brand that is honest and you would get double the results.

Look at www.basicsupplements.co.za they are honest and well priced. Anything they don't stock I don't believe is even worth your while taking.

They do have WMS for sale that isn't on their site, and I think 1 or two other goodies.

In my opinion, there are no need for supplement companies, especially in its current form.... Except for Protein, Creatine and certain vitamins and amino acids. Show me unbiased studies done by scientists that show any over the counter supplement adds SUBSTANTIAL amount of muscle close to the price you pay or close to the supplement companies' claims. Pre and Post workout are also a farce, we can make these as effectively as any supplement company.

Nice tasting whey, put some Milo in there you girl

Let stupid people buy supplements which pay for supplement companies to once in a while stumble on something like Creatine....

USN Might have had some growing pains but I think their new products are good enough to give you the results you want.I also think that you should try everything find out what works for you stick to it and go BIG.

As jy dink jou geld is of word gesteel gaan kyk maar net hoeveel hulle vir Bodybuilding doen met al die shows wat hul borg gaan klim eerder op die stage en wen jou geld terug.

pete wrote: USN Might have had some growing pains but I think their new products are good enough to give you the results you want.I also think that you should try everything find out what works for you stick to it and go BIG.

As jy dink jou geld is of word gesteel gaan kyk maar net hoeveel hulle vir Bodybuilding doen met al die shows wat hul borg gaan klim eerder op die stage en wen jou geld terug.

You say this Pete, but it comes back to my point. Double blind studies are the only reliable proof. Palcebo effect is a powerful thing. If I take your pre-workout shake infused with Chuck Norris Matrix and other proprietary ingredients I will be looking for results and will push a extra 10kilos on bench. The same if a hot chick egged me on. This doesn't mean it was your shake that made me more powerful.

To give you and idea. I record everything, I'm very anal, daily weigh ins, measurements diet diary etc. I did it the other way around. I took all kinds of supplements, nearly R3000 worth a month, then started doing some research and anything without proof was chucked, made no difference in gains or weight loss. The only thing I noticed made a difference was dropping Creatine and glutamine, as I'm keto, strength dropped slightly and recovery went down. This might also be only because of dropping creatine though as there is very little proof glutamine gets to where it needs to without being intravenously administered.

"So try it and see what works for you", is not a good argument. I understand they sponsor bodybuilding but necesary evil isn't gonna make me buy their products. When I go into Dischem its not bodybuilders walking out with USN under their arms but kids and fat chicks....

I'm not bashing USN specificaly as I avoid all of them. I still get ripped by Dischem paying R50 for a small packet of husks, which should be R10, so everyone is doing it.

PETE honestly how much do u.s.n pay you to come on sites like these and talk utter bullshit?

Ultimate Thug I undrstand what you are saying and yes USN does not cater for Bodybuilding as their main market.

We all know that you would not need any Supps if our food quality was better.

Sounds like you know yourself pretty well an I respect that this is a hard game we are in and to be the best you've got train and have knowledge like the best so big up...yourself.

I have had great results with and without supplements the reason I joined this forum was to shed some light on Troy Alves and him being sposored by a SA company. The fact is that Bodybuilding in SA is moving further fast and its good supplement companies and great athlete's(Maruis,Hennie,Conrad,Shameen, etc.) that need our support and positive criticism to go to the next level.


C E nope not on any payroll it just would not be a forum if everybody agreed with you.

Sure pete and if everyone agreed with u and used u.s.n then nobody will ever get what they need

pete wrote: Ultimate Thug I undrstand what you are saying and yes USN does not cater for Bodybuilding as their main market.

So what exactly is their main market? How can a supp company compete with others if BB isn't one of their main markets?

Our lab did tests on lots off SA supplements for the new consumer act starting in the end of the year and the reason I am using USN at the moment is because of the supplements we tested all their stuff is what say it is. So sorry pump that’s not good enough reason I have the facts.
I did use Evox but for me after the tests we did not one of their products was what is says it was and they are the biggest bullshitters out there. So for me I will never support them.
In no means do I give a crap but results is results and in the end we want to use something thats worth while.
That’s why I ask your opinions to see what you use

Oh and if BB isn't one of their main markets then why do BBs promote USN at supp stores like Dischem?

Pics or it didnt happen

Sting wrote:

pete wrote: Ultimate Thug I undrstand what you are saying and yes USN does not cater for Bodybuilding as their main market.

So what exactly is their main market? How can a supp company compete with others if BB isn't one of their main markets?

I believe they have got a Hardcore Range catering for BB the main supplement market today is health & weight loss. But recently they have picked up the slack with more hardcore formulas that do actually give results.

Sting wrote: Oh and if BB isn't one of their main markets then why do BBs promote USN at supp stores like Dischem?

cos they know what works:huh:

pete wrote:

Sting wrote:

pete wrote: Ultimate Thug I undrstand what you are saying and yes USN does not cater for Bodybuilding as their main market.

So what exactly is their main market? How can a supp company compete with others if BB isn't one of their main markets?

I believe they have got a Hardcore Range catering for BB the main supplement market today is health & weight loss. But recently they have picked up the slack with more hardcore formulas that do actually give results.

So then if that is their main market then why not have healthy people and people undergoing weight loss promote their products??? It wouldn't look good if they used these people to promote their products as BBs are the BIG guys...false marketing all the way

pete wrote:

Sting wrote: Oh and if BB isn't one of their main markets then why do BBs promote USN at supp stores like Dischem?

cos they know what works:huh:

this was a retorical question, I wasnt looking for an answer

chemically enhanced wrote: Sure pete and if everyone agreed with u and used u.s.n then nobody will ever get what they need

I'm not saying anybody should use any spesific brand all I'm saying is that if they were really bullshitting everyone why does no one take action?
And why do people still gets results?

USN may have a few faults, but two things are true:
1. Their products have improved over the years (In matric their whey gave me diarrhea, which is not the case anymore)
2. Their prices have increased unnecessarily as well