Sore knees

Hi guys been wanting to ask you all about some knee problems i have had. It started when i was in matric i am now 28 years old. When i was in matric i had started training heavy and after a while my knees started to get sore i even remember getting a bit of water under my knee when i pushed my knee with my fingers you could feel the fluid around the knee this pain came and went over the years. I was off gym for 3 years about 4 years ago as i had a child and had to focus on other prioritys. Now i have been back for about a year and am hithing the weights hard again but my knee problems are coming back. Did legs last night went pretty heavy and today my knees are a bit sore. What can i take to help with this. I also am going to go buy some knee straps as they must help when you go heavy i am sure.

If you have knee problems, I wouldn't go heavy on legs, you'll end up causing more damage to the knees. The fluid build up is due to inflamation, get some anti-inflamatories to get the swelling down.

If you use knee straps, don't rely on them too much, they don't help strengthen your knees,they just offer support. Been using arthroguard and its help my knees plenty.

You might even have fractured bone in your knee caps which is causing the leakage of synovial fluid when you train heavy on legs

you can try cortisone injections but I don`t think you can use cortisone long term....

How would i have fractured my knee cap ? I have never fallen down on my knees to hurt them that badly. Also i am following the max ot training program were you have to go heavy so dont know what to do. Will try some of that arthrogaurd is it expensive?

@barbell i have heard of people fucking them selves up using cortisone as it just masks the pain.

juiced169 wrote: @barbell i have heard of people fucking them selves up using cortisone as it just masks the pain.

Well it does has great anti-inflammatory properties and it does provide pain relief….but like anything that gives pain relief you still have to find the root cause of the problem. If it’s just localized swelling from a twist or something the anti-inflammatory properties will reduce swelling and the damage heals itself….if its more serious damage then I agree with you cortisone is only going to be a temporary mask of the damage and give people a false sense of recovery. Bottom line is if you’ve damage your knee you need to check it out professionally…like the song said…”look after your knees….you`ll miss them when they gone”….:laugh:

I've been using arthaway which is like a cheap dischem glucosomine and other goddies supplement, I took it for my elbow and it has helped, took a month to take effect. My knees use to click and I would get pain in them when doing squats if I didn't angle my feet out, since taking the glucosomine it sorted that out as well. Plus my rotator cuff problems is a thing of the past.

Try the Arthoguard and go lighter for a while, ease back into it, as soon as it hurts drop the weights, that's how I sorted out the elbow, I never trained over the pain.

I find if I stop supplementing the pain comes back a bit, something I'm going have to supplement with for the rest of my life?

The same happened to me, had tennis elbow then tried the arthrogurad and found that it helped the clicking with my knees so I just stay on it permanently now. Not too expensive, cheaper than osteoeeze, there is usually a promo pack where you get two bottles for the price of one, I think it was about R120.

The fracture was just a possibility because something is causing the leakage of the fluid, I didnt say it was that.

Sore knees is common for bodybuilders, normally started off when we where young and ignorant.. People telling us to push weights our body couldn't quite handle and this has caused issues with synovial fluids and we start to develop chondromalacia patella pain (pain in the front part of our knee).

There is a natural herb for this that my doctor recommended but for the love of me I can't remember, however I do need to pay a visit soon and have 2 questions to ask, 1 regarding 'joints' and 'natural test booster, no not 'tribulus' something that is actually designed for 'libido and low test levels'.

Ok sweet guys and gals thanks for all the input will go to dischem and get some stuff thanks

All the supplementation is well and good, i'd recommend it too, but another important aspect is actually getting a professional to check out the knees and find the actual source of the problem. Knee's can cause further problems with the rest of your leg and your back if they are not functioning correctly. They are part of a kinematic chain and dysfunction can lead to other injuries. Chondromalacia patella is one of a number of issues that can be occurring there. Go get them checked bro. If you need a good referall i can point you in the right direction

spike wrote: All the supplementation is well and good, i'd recommend it too, but another important aspect is actually getting a professional to check out the knees and find the actual source of the problem. Knee's can cause further problems with the rest of your leg and your back if they are not functioning correctly. They are part of a kinematic chain and dysfunction can lead to other injuries. Chondromalacia patella is one of a number of issues that can be occurring there. Go get them checked bro. If you need a good referall i can point you in the right direction

Juiced I appologise in advance for the semi highjack, but its kinda related and not worth a new thread.

Spike is there any operations for double jointed/hypermobile knees?

I cant say i've come across any ultimate. Do your knees hyperextend (bend backward slightly)? It's often a genetic thing that can affect posture (swayback), but doesnt normally cause major issues. Any pain related to it? Surgery is not really an option you'd want to consider unless all other possibilities are exhausted and the problem is too severe for you to live with... Otherwise for stabilisation look at stregthening ALL muscles around the knee and performing proprioceptive type exercises

@thug no sweat bro we all live in SA and should be used to hi jackings now LOL dont worry bro i tend to hijack a thread every now and then if it is kind of related instead of making a whole new thread. @spike is there anyone one in durban who you could recommend. I only get sore knees when i go heavy especialy on squats and then about 2 days later they seem to be ok not 100% about 85% ok

I can recommend anyone of a number of guys. Where you situated and where would suit you best. Im in Durban myself so know everyone around here

spike wrote: I cant say i've come across any ultimate. Do your knees hyperextend (bend backward slightly)? It's often a genetic thing that can affect posture (swayback), but doesnt normally cause major issues. Any pain related to it? Surgery is not really an option you'd want to consider unless all other possibilities are exhausted and the problem is too severe for you to live with... Otherwise for stabilisation look at stregthening ALL muscles around the knee and performing proprioceptive type exercises

Exactly that, posture, I tend to angle my ass inwards a lot, even when I sit. Its not noticeable at all really, but I'm sure this is why I get lower back pain. When I stretch my legs by lying on the ground and bringing them up towards me, it pulls on my lower back instead of my hamstrings, is getting better since I've been focusing on stretching it out and sitting up straight, but was hoping there's some sort of fix I could keep in mind.

Thanks for being a peaceful victim in the highjack Juiced

Working with posture changes is quite a tough thing. It takes time to retrain your body and musculature, but it can be done with committment and determination. I know of a chiro in east london who works almost exclusively with that...

But stretching, carriage, and core musculature is what you need to focus on...

Thanks Spike.