hgh for injuries and fat loss

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29 Jul 2013 04:52 - 29 Jul 2013 04:52 #145398 by kalooob
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i am planning on doing a 4IU/day,3 months cycle (i can't afford more unfortunately) of pharmaceutical hgh for healing injuries, strengthen my tendons and ligaments and fat loss, i won't be lifting weights but will get back to my muay thai training.

1)what are the real possible side effects that i'd experience with such dosage short term and long term

2)why is injection every 2nd day is better than everyday ? and for IM injection do i have to use mirror injecting for all the muscles or can i just go for glutes?

3)do i need to supplement any thyroid support for such dosage ?

if u have any more advice let me know

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29 Jul 2013 19:21 #145466 by kalooob
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im 25, 6'1, 110kg, 27%bf

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29 Jul 2013 20:04 - 29 Jul 2013 20:06 #145468 by Muscleaddict
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If that is all you can afford, then for your goals rather do 3iu a day for 4 months. If it's pharma grade that is fine and 3 months is barely worth it at the cost.

You should have no side effects at 3iu a day. At 4 or 5 you might get tingles in your hands and some water retention.

Every 2nd day is not better. That depends on dose, goals and what else you are using with it. Stick with every day.

Do subcutaneous shots, not IM. HGH will not give you any site growth unless you are running it at high doses with steroids or insulin.

Thyroid meds not necessary at your dose and cycle length.
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29 Jul 2013 22:16 - 29 Jul 2013 22:17 #145474 by Pyroclasm
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What made you decide (on a very limited budget) on HGH for fat loss and so and not other fat burners? Why I am asking is that if perhaps you are not well informed, you can do x100 better with your money for all those things.
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30 Jul 2013 00:08 #145484 by kalooob
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Muscleaddict wrote: If that is all you can afford, then for your goals rather do 3iu a day for 4 months. If it's pharma grade that is fine and 3 months is barely worth it at the cost.

You should have no side effects at 3iu a day. At 4 or 5 you might get tingles in your hands and some water retention.

Every 2nd day is not better. That depends on dose, goals and what else you are using with it. Stick with every day.

Do subcutaneous shots, not IM. HGH will not give you any site growth unless you are running it at high doses with steroids or insulin.

Thyroid meds not necessary at your dose and cycle length.


thanks MA for ur reply , why should i go for subcutaneous shot rather than IM ? is that has to do with fat burning effect ?

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30 Jul 2013 00:11 #145485 by kalooob
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Pyroclasm wrote: What made you decide (on a very limited budget) on HGH for fat loss and so and not other fat burners? Why I am asking is that if perhaps you are not well informed, you can do x100 better with your money for all those things.



actually fat loss comes third as a bounce for me , main reasons are the injuries and discomfort caused by the way i used to train when i started lifting weights and muay thai as well :)

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30 Jul 2013 11:38 #145498 by Muscleaddict
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With im shots, if you don't really know what you're doing you could hit a nerve, or inject into a blood vessel if injecting in the wrong place. Even with an insulin needle. Since you asked about injecting HGH into the glutes (which nobody does) it is easier and safer to go subq. Intramuscular shots must be done where there is no fat like your quads. You really should try to research this a bit. Bioavailability is slightly higher after subcutaneous injection than im, but both increase IGF1 levels by the same amount, despite im shots being absorbed faster and causing higher peak levels. Subq shots keep HGH levels elevated longer. At the end of the day you will not notice a difference in fat loss or healing whichever you choose to do.
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30 Jul 2013 12:27 #145505 by Pyroclasm
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kalooob wrote:

Pyroclasm wrote: What made you decide (on a very limited budget) on HGH for fat loss and so and not other fat burners? Why I am asking is that if perhaps you are not well informed, you can do x100 better with your money for all those things.



actually fat loss comes third as a bounce for me , main reasons are the injuries and discomfort caused by the way i used to train when i started lifting weights and muay thai as well :)


What are your injuries exactly? I just feel that HGH at 3iu per day is a waste compared to using other methods. HGH is great for healing don´t get me wrong though.

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30 Jul 2013 18:53 #145529 by kalooob
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Muscleaddict wrote: With im shots, if you don't really know what you're doing you could hit a nerve, or inject into a blood vessel if injecting in the wrong place. Even with an insulin needle. Since you asked about injecting HGH into the glutes (which nobody does) it is easier and safer to go subq. Intramuscular shots must be done where there is no fat like your quads. You really should try to research this a bit. Bioavailability is slightly higher after subcutaneous injection than im, but both increase IGF1 levels by the same amount, despite im shots being absorbed faster and causing higher peak levels. Subq shots keep HGH levels elevated longer. At the end of the day you will not notice a difference in fat loss or healing whichever you choose to do.


i've been on a AAS cycle before and been injecting myself in both quads and glutes so i know how how IM inject properly no worries :) and yea i got more fats on glutes medius than my quads but will it matter if im using 1.25" inch since it will be in the muscles u know.

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30 Jul 2013 18:59 #145531 by kalooob
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Pyroclasm wrote:

kalooob wrote:

Pyroclasm wrote: What made you decide (on a very limited budget) on HGH for fat loss and so and not other fat burners? Why I am asking is that if perhaps you are not well informed, you can do x100 better with your money for all those things.



actually fat loss comes third as a bounce for me , main reasons are the injuries and discomfort caused by the way i used to train when i started lifting weights and muay thai as well :)


What are your injuries exactly? I just feel that HGH at 3iu per day is a waste compared to using other methods. HGH is great for healing don´t get me wrong though.


left rotator cuff, both wrist joints ,left elbow ligament,both ankles from muay thai,and over all the poping in joints in general. i've been using animal flex for a 3 months and it gave good support (but not healing ) after i stopped it came back to what i was before so thats why im keen to go for HGH because its been so irritating to train any muscle group there is always a problem :(

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30 Jul 2013 19:07 #145533 by Muscleaddict
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You have to use an insulin syringe, or the pen that comes with some pharma grade hgh. You will waste too much with a normal syringe. No disrespect meant but that is the absolute basics you should know if you'd spent half an hour researching this.

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30 Jul 2013 21:03 #145556 by Pyroclasm
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kalooob wrote:

Pyroclasm wrote:

kalooob wrote:

Pyroclasm wrote: What made you decide (on a very limited budget) on HGH for fat loss and so and not other fat burners? Why I am asking is that if perhaps you are not well informed, you can do x100 better with your money for all those things.



actually fat loss comes third as a bounce for me , main reasons are the injuries and discomfort caused by the way i used to train when i started lifting weights and muay thai as well :)


What are your injuries exactly? I just feel that HGH at 3iu per day is a waste compared to using other methods. HGH is great for healing don´t get me wrong though.


left rotator cuff, both wrist joints ,left elbow ligament,both ankles from muay thai,and over all the poping in joints in general. i've been using animal flex for a 3 months and it gave good support (but not healing ) after i stopped it came back to what i was before so thats why im keen to go for HGH because its been so irritating to train any muscle group there is always a problem :(


It's gonna take much longer than that to heal properly bud. Give your joints the support they need for as long as it takes them to heal. Also you might want to consider stopping training for a while. Repeated injuries is only going to retard the process. You could also go and see a specialist and see what he says. Maybe your injuries are deeper than what you think. It's been known to happen that you break something or tear a joint and you don't experience all that much pain.

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31 Jul 2013 06:08 #145572 by kalooob
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Muscleaddict wrote: You have to use an insulin syringe, or the pen that comes with some pharma grade hgh. You will waste too much with a normal syringe. No disrespect meant but that is the absolute basics you should know if you'd spent half an hour researching this.


i'll research more then :)

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31 Jul 2013 06:11 #145573 by kalooob
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It's gonna take much longer than that to heal properly bud. Give your joints the support they need for as long as it takes them to heal. Also you might want to consider stopping training for a while. Repeated injuries is only going to retard the process. You could also go and see a specialist and see what he says. Maybe your injuries are deeper than what you think. It's been known to happen that you break something or tear a joint and you don't experience all that much pain.[/quote]


i will go to a specialist then and see how things will go from there

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