Recovery - HGH, BPC157, TB500

Hi all

Current stats:
Age 32
Weight 75kgs
Height 1.78m
BF 13%

Training
4 to 5 days a week
3 functional fitness sessions
2 Muay Thai sessions

Injuries
Right knee – damage to the patella ligament and meniscus (MRI recently conducted via orthopedic surgeon)
Left knee – gives same issues as right, but no MRI done
Right groin, scan done and diagnosed as sports hernia

The orthopedic surgeon says both knees could probably be sorted out with PRP injections, this however comes at a cost of around R1800 per injection, so R3600 per visit, and this doesn’t assist the groin at all - they also cant tell you how many sessions you'll need.

I have done extensive research on BPC-157, TB-500 and then of course HGH.
When it comes down to overall effects, I’m leaning towards HGH
As per the article by Doctari and Admin I’ve worked out that I could take 4IU’s every second day split morning and before lunch, they also recommend following each dose by around 60 grams of hydrolyzed whey, and then a bunch of things to avoid.

Does the above sound like a viable option for around 75 days ( 3 x 100iu kits )
I REALLY want fix myself up, and I also make an effort every day to do rehab and stretches, but at the same time I don’t want to cause any issues with possible side effects.

I damaged both my left and right patella in my early years of bodybuilding and I have taken more grown hormone than most people and as of the last few years its all been pharma and it has done nothing to help it. Maybe it helps you, maybe it doesn't. PRP injections did help Kevin Levrone, I've never done them so I can't comment from experience.

try and find out about surplasian injections, they are like a jelly that is injected to the knee.

thanks Empire , i shall look into that

00pump, thanks for the feedback,

other than that, does my suggested cycle look ok for a first timer? ( if i were to try it )

I wouldn't do the 4iu twice a day every second day. If you set on 4iu, do it everyday for the 75 days. If its for injury I'd probably even change that and go for 3iu for 100 days.. I've seen very little benefit on higher doses of HGH over short periods of time (mostly side effects) than running lower over long periods of time.

thnks Pump
i meant 4iu every second day , 2iu in the morning and 2iu later in the day

but the 3 ius every day also makes sense

would i just pin that first thing every morning then?

Inject EOD.

Study: academic.oup.com/jcem/article/87/8/3573/2846550

In the study they checked height vs injection frequency. The ED group had way less growth than the EOD group.

This study targeted height in adolescents—not lean body mass in adult bodybuilders, or antiaging effects in middle-aged adults—so it's still a matter of extrapolation as to whether or not the results can be applied to these user subgroups. Bodybuilders aren't children, however I think EOD may help with "bone recovery".

vladtheimpaler wrote: Inject EOD.

Study: academic.oup.com/jcem/article/87/8/3573/2846550

In the study they checked height vs injection frequency. The ED group had way less growth than the EOD group.

This study targeted height in adolescents—not lean body mass in adult bodybuilders, or antiaging effects in middle-aged adults—so it's still a matter of extrapolation as to whether or not the results can be applied to these user subgroups. Bodybuilders aren't children, however I think EOD may help with "bone recovery".

You cannot compare adults and kids with growth hormone deficiency. Its very simple test yourself.. Test on the day off for IGF and test on the morning you have taken your shot, tell me what your bloods say. I have years of bloods and can tell you my IGF levels are higher everyday then 5 days on 1 day or 2 days off which I did 16+ years ago.

00pump wrote:

vladtheimpaler wrote: Inject EOD.

Study: academic.oup.com/jcem/article/87/8/3573/2846550

In the study they checked height vs injection frequency. The ED group had way less growth than the EOD group.

This study targeted height in adolescents—not lean body mass in adult bodybuilders, or antiaging effects in middle-aged adults—so it's still a matter of extrapolation as to whether or not the results can be applied to these user subgroups. Bodybuilders aren't children, however I think EOD may help with "bone recovery".

You cannot compare adults and kids with growth hormone deficiency. Its very simple test yourself.. Test on the day off for IGF and test on the morning you have taken your shot, tell me what your bloods say. I have years of bloods and can tell you my IGF levels are higher everyday then 5 days on 1 day or 2 days off which I did 16+ years ago.

As a side note, there is no justification for taking time off, other than saving some money and trying to extend the protocol. I would inject daily in accordance with insulin levels in the body.

Overall, why not try a ghrelin mimetic GH secretagogue.
If that takes you to optimal levels, it is a massive weapon in the arsenal.

so i decided to give MK-677 a go, 5 days in now - 1 x 15mg capsule 2 hours before bed each night - so far so good