Mixing Generic GH and shelf life once mixed.

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21 Jul 2009 14:47 #18010 by Netro
I have received quite a few questions around this.
How to mix KeFei and Nomatropin (Think these are the 2 most popular around)
Would you chaps like to explain how you mix and how you get to the correct daily dose of say 4iU.
4iU seems pretty standard to most enthusiasts.
Also, acceptable life span once mixed.
Just want to centralize this in one post cause it is all over the forum.

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21 Jul 2009 19:15 #18045 by jackrabbit1
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Netro, we discussed those points here as well: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum?func=view&catid=3&id=17115

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21 Jul 2009 20:25 #18046 by Netro
Hi Bud,
Like I said, there are allot of posts that touch on this subject.
Just want it all in one place.
Mixing for instance, Nomatropin comes with 1ml and KeFei with 2 ml water, but the raw vial is still 10iU in both.
This is confusing for guys and they end up taking the incorrect dose.

This is why I am asking for real life experiences

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22 Jul 2009 09:59 #18086 by dirkgreeff
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Got a piece here from www.bulkmuscle.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1586

Where to Inject, How, and How to Make:
You can site inject anywhere you can reach the subcutaneous layer. Pinch the flesh and pull back, then insert the needle in the "pocket" underneath. Doesn't absorb quick enough if you inject into the adipose tissue. Do not inject intra-muscular, though it can be done, it is not recommended. GH is a site injection, where it is shot is where it will burn the most noticeable fat. Most people do it in the stomach since that is a typical sub q shot with most of the fat being in that area. GH should be kept in a fridge; freezing will destroy the GH. On your kit it probably says to use the kit in 18-24 hours, remember these are for AIDS patients, not bodybuilders or athletes. Mixing the GH can either be done with sterile water or bacteriostic water. The kit with water will be fine for 3 days in the fridge, even with the sterile water, but you should not take this chance, rather you should use bacteriostic water and play it safe. This will keep it fine for a couple of weeks. When mixing the GH, let the water slide down the side as to not pulverize the GH wafer. Do not spray it directly against the wafer with any force. Before reconstitution and even after GH is fragile!!! Also once the water is injected into the bottle gently swirl the vial to reconstitute, do not shake or swirl violently!!!!

Conversions:
1 ml = 1 cc -/+
100 units per 1 cc

6 mg = 18iu

1 ml = 18iu

.50 ml = 9iu

.25 ml = 4.5iu

Some people choose to only do it in cc’s but here is how you can do it in units on a slin dart

5.5 = 1iu, so 2iu = 11 on a slin dart

Differences Between Kits:
The main difference between kits is how many iu’s they make when reconstituted. For example, Serostim re-constitutes to make 126iu, while a Saizen kit.... also made by Serono.... makes up 15iu. Another of their kits makes 54iu. It better be way cheaper than a Serostim kit! Humatrope is fine, but costs too much. The other main concern would be fakes; Lilly is the most often faked one. Some older GH kits do not have holograms on them and are legit, but they are usually only less than 100 dollars than new GH kits with holograms, and I would rather be assured of the hologram and legitimacy of the kit. Best buy currently is Serostim 126 iu kits. These are made for people with wasting diseases like AIDs. Many of these patients got infected because they are IV drug addicts..........they sell the Serostim on the street for drug money.


Dose:

4 to 6 iu ed is sufficient. Most people take it 5 days on 2 days off at their designated dosage. There is no reason or evidence why you cannot stay on for various lengths of time; there is no need to go 5 on 2 off other than cost. Considering that our natural production is only .5 to 1.5iu a day, this is still a huge bump for the body. Research has shown that the body's natural defence systems render mega doses of GH ineffective, anyway. GH does not cause gains in mass...it allows you to put on a great deal of lean mass in combination with proper steroid and insulin use. The user before taking must know this. One or two kits are not enough, you need at least 3 to make you happy, GH takes a while to make its effects, but remember they are long lasting, what you see is what you keep. It takes 6 to 8 weeks to notice a dramatic change in body comp using GH on an ED or 5/2 split. Lighter doses for long periods of time are better than large doses for short cycles. Like any other drug, the more you take the more the benefits, but likewise also more risks. 4-6 iu is a standard dose but many people take more, the most repulsing side effects happen at or beyond 12 iu a day but like anything else it depends on your predisposition for it.

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22 Jul 2009 11:41 #18104 by Empire
when mixing kefei gh use 1ml of water (100iu's). once u are done drawing up the liquid and u are injecting it into the vial with the powder make sure u hold the plunger of the syringe with your thumb as there is a suction in the vial that will draw the water out,make sure that u get the water to squirt on the glass and not directly onto the powder,once the water is in the vial and the powder hasnt dissolved properly place the vial on a flat surface and move in a circular motion in order to mix the two.. never shake the vial to dissolve the powder it will damage the aminos.

ok seeing that u are using 1ml of water which is the equivalent to 100iu's and the vial of gh contains 10iu's of growth, per 10iu's of dissolved solution = 1iu of gh. now seeing u want to to do 2iu's per shot u draw up 20iu's of solution. inject into the skin for site specific fat loss... do this inbetween meals, 1 hour after a meal or 1 hour before a meal.

if you are to use the water that comes with the gh it will start to degrade rapidly after 48hours(so says the leaflet) but if u are to use bacteriostatic water(sabex water) the growth will be fine for 14days because of the preservative. which means u will be able to make your 1 vial last a lot longer... there are many ways of doing gh. i have done 2 ways, the first is 4iu's for 5days and 2 days straight. and the other is 4iu's every otherday just to make it last longer... what u can also do is 4iu's everyday if u have the money or 2iu's everyday if u are tight on the cash and u are using bacteriostatic water.

hope this helps

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22 Jul 2009 12:47 #18108 by jackrabbit1
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I dilute it with 2ml - i find that it comes out of suspention too easily with only 1 ml. As soon as i apply pressure the powder forms a line the length of the syringe. maybe i'm doing something wrong?

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22 Jul 2009 13:33 #18109 by Empire
i dont have a problem with it... maybe the guateng air makes it dilute funny ;)

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01 Apr 2010 12:42 #41484 by JoeBlack
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I'm using 5iu per day, Two days on - one day off. I dissolve the GH in 1ml of the water supplied. This works perfect for me seing as the vial is used in 2 day (48 hours)

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