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12 Feb 2010 10:05 #36112 by Morphosis
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Hi Guys:

I'm new to this forum so here we go, firstly my stats are as follows:

Age : 35;
Weight : 79Kg;
Height : 1.76m;
Body Fat : 18%;

Diet:

very strict, only steamed chicken, steamed fish quite a few "Optimum nutrition" protein shakes. and meals are divided through out the day in reasonable portions, so i don't get to blotted

I have just finished a cycle of the following:

Tren : 1ml per week;
Wini :2 tab per day;

I manage to put on a reasonable amount of mass went up from 70kg to 79kg in 10 weeks. love the size however my sex drive has gone for a ball of S__it. my question is as follows:

I'm getting Nomatropin and starting on that next week, would the GH help my sex drive kick back into gear? and have any of you taken Nomatropin? is it good? how much size will i pick up on it if my cycle is as follows:

2 iu's in the morning, and 2 iu's in the afternoon for 6 months

Looking forward to hearing some advice, as my wife wants to kill me due to the sex drive.lol


Morph.

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12 Feb 2010 10:21 #36113 by N3rd
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Did you do pct?
Check out the pct forums, or google it if you don't know what it is.

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12 Feb 2010 10:23 #36114 by 00pump
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1 mill = how many mg of gear, tren e or tren a?

winnie 2 tab per day, 10mg of 5mg tab or 50mg tab?

What PCT did you do (Post cycle therapy) if you never completed a proper PCT you will suffer this problem.

How long since you finished the cycle?

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12 Feb 2010 10:35 #36116 by Morphosis
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00pump wrote:

1 mill = how many mg of gear, tren e or tren a?

winnie 2 tab per day, 10mg of 5mg tab or 50mg tab?

What PCT did you do (Post cycle therapy) if you never completed a proper PCT you will suffer this problem.

How long since you finished the cycle?


Thank you for the fast reply

tren was 1ml (100mg - 50mg tren e and 50 mg tren a.
winnie 2 tabs per day (10mg each).

as to the PCT, nothing done.... probably stupid of me but didnt think the cycle i did was that big to need PCT.

had my last shot of tren three days ago, and winnie still taking, think i have +- 10 tabs left.

tx Morph.

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12 Feb 2010 10:36 #36117 by Morphosis
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No, i didnt think my cycle was that big that i would need PCT( probably stupid of me, i know)

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12 Feb 2010 10:45 #36119 by 00pump
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Ok well you do a PCT doesn't matter how small the cycle is... You need to get a PCT into action... Also I find the Winnie dose you took a waste at 20mg a day, I feel you have shut down your system and not really benifited from the cycle.

Carry on the winstrol but you need to start HCG in around 4-5 days time, do 500iu every 3rd day for 2 weeks and on the second week start clomid at 50mg a day for 10 days and 20mg kessar during that time but for 30 days...

I'd say leave the GH now and give your body 2 or so months to recover and then come back here and have the guys give you a proper cycle to do.

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12 Feb 2010 10:47 #36121 by 00pump
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Also nomatropin is WAY to expensive for what its worth, id use something else, i'm sure admin or netro can give you better advice on what GH to use instead of that.

also you prob going to hear a mix emotion about using kessar for PCT, its up to you, i can assure it will work well.

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12 Feb 2010 10:50 #36122 by Morphosis
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dude thank you very much for the advice, will definitely take you up on it, glad i decided to post my question. you have been a great help. will wait to take GH, let my body recover.

Have a fab weekend, and again thank you.

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12 Feb 2010 10:52 #36123 by BB_guy
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Dont mean to be an asshole but, you gained 9KG using 220mg of anabolics a week?????
PLUS Nmad goodies are underdosed, so the winny is more like 2.5mg and the tren +-100mg......
PLUS you ate mostly steamed chicken and fish....

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12 Feb 2010 11:08 #36129 by Morphosis
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BB_guy wrote:

Dont mean to be an asshole but, you gained 9KG using 220mg of anabolics a week?????
PLUS Nmad goodies are underdosed, so the winny is more like 2.5mg and the tren +-100mg......
PLUS you ate mostly steamed chicken and fish....


Dont stress dude, dont think you are an ass, but i do not understand your comment, are you saying i should of gained more, or I'm Liying?
please elaborate, thanks man.

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12 Feb 2010 11:22 #36135 by BB_guy
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Well first off, to gain almost a kg/week, you need to be eating a shitload.

You said you ate:
"very strict, only steamed chicken, steamed fish quite a few "Optimum nutrition" protein shakes. and meals are divided through out the day in reasonable portions, so i don't get to blotted"

Plus the amount of gear you used is minuscule. You barely replaced what you had naturally with exo hormones.

Not calling you a liar at all, just doesn't make much sense.

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12 Feb 2010 11:36 #36137 by Morphosis
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BB_guy wrote:

Well first off, to gain almost a kg/week, you need to be eating a shitload.

You said you ate:
"very strict, only steamed chicken, steamed fish quite a few "Optimum nutrition" protein shakes. and meals are divided through out the day in reasonable portions, so i don't get to blotted"

Plus the amount of gear you used is minuscule. You barely replaced what you had naturally with exo hormones.

Not calling you a liar at all, just doesn't make much sense.


Don't get me wrong I appreciate and respect your comment dude,believe it or not i actually take it as a complement, dont worry i too got a bit amazed with the results.
Before I started the course I tried different diets, and found that for me eating what I provided you guys with I get the best results. I truly have gained 9KG.

the reason for the small cycle is due to the fact I hadn't trained in a few years and decided to do a small start-up cycle just to get me back into the hang of things.

again tx man.

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12 Feb 2010 11:48 #36139 by 00pump
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have you ever done a cycle before? maybe thats why... first cycles you really gain nicely, also remeber when u cycle you normally have lots of dicipline and thats prob where you weight came in too.

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12 Feb 2010 11:55 #36142 by Morphosis
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00pump wrote:

have you ever done a cycle before? maybe thats why... first cycles you really gain nicely, also remeber when u cycle you normally have lots of dicipline and thats prob where you weight came in too.


I have done a cycle around 2005, and i agree with you about the discipline, i am very dedicated and train extremely hard 6 days a week. i eat healthy, and quite big meals, just because i have steamed fish and chicken, doesn't mean they are not big portions. I also found that eating like this, and doing cardio for 30 min a day is starting to make me very lean, and allowing me to get my body to the shape i have in mind.

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12 Feb 2010 12:06 #36144 by BB_guy
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True, if you're just getting back into training and like Pump said, very disciplined I guess its possible. Good job on the 9kg.

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12 Feb 2010 12:09 #36145 by BB_guy
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Next you need to sort out your PCT like Pumper said. :-)
Even a low dose of 19 nor(Tren) will shut down natty Test production to some degree.

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12 Feb 2010 12:13 #36146 by Morphosis
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To All of you out there that i chatted with, thank you very much. will visit this site more often, thank you for your advice, and comments, truly appreciated. hope you all have a fabulous weekend,

Later dudes you guys rock.

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12 Feb 2010 18:15 #36201 by BBG
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stack your cycles with test

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15 Feb 2010 10:08 #36326 by Morphosis
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BBG wrote:

stack your cycles with test


Hi There BB_guy & pump:

You guys helped me quite a bit last week, would it be wise to add Testosterone Cypionate to my cycle?

Planing to do the following:

3iu( nomatropin) EOD;
2ml's week of test cypionate.

As i stated before, i'm weighing 79KG, would like to get to +- 90KG.

only planing to do this cycle after my PCT.

thanks.

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15 Feb 2010 10:30 #36328 by Netro
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Noma is a good GH, but it is essential that you read DJ's post on GH do's and dont's.

EOD shots is not the way to go. 2 days on and 1 off or 5 days on and 2 off is a much better protocol. ED is first prize.

You can manage GH and AAS separately, but make sure you recover from your last cycle and do a proper PCT or you will be disappointed with your next one and run the risk of doing long term damage to your hormonal system.

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15 Feb 2010 10:42 #36334 by Morphosis
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Thank you , do you know where i can get hold of that post?

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15 Feb 2010 11:56 #36349 by BB_guy
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Hey Morph0sis

Have you finished the cycle yet?
What PCT are you doing?
HGH works lovely with Test ;)

(I tried but cant find the post Netro is advising )

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15 Feb 2010 12:07 #36352 by Morphosis
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BB_guy wrote:

Hey Morph0sis

Have you finished the cycle yet?
What PCT are you doing?
HGH works lovely with Test ;)

(I tried but cant find the post Netro is advising )


Hi BB:

I was thinking of taking what pump sudgested:
"Carry on the winstrol but you need to start HCG in around 4-5 days time, do 500iu every 3rd day for 2 weeks and on the second week start clomid at 50mg a day for 10 days and 20mg kessar during that time but for 30 days..."

what do you think?

the reason for my post with HGH and test is so i can start budgeting for the cycle.

i also need advidce as to dosages to take for the Nomatropin, and the Test.

would 3iu EOD of HGH be sufficient, along side 2ml/week of test?
and when to take the HGH and when to take the Test?

Thanks BB for you help....

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15 Feb 2010 12:34 #36357 by BB_guy
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Ya, Pumps suggestion is 100's if I understand correctly,

Run the Winny for 2 extra weeks after the last oil injection, and in that time frame start HCG 500iu twice a week, once you have finished the 2 weeks of Winny, start Clomid and Kessar.

Your Test dosage should be around 500mg a week split into 2 injections, like Monday 250mg, and Thursday 250mg.
The HGH I would start at 2iu at a time and see how you react. (Do plenty of reading up on the HGH!!!)

IMO you dont need HGH yet(*you are jumping the gun a bit), but its your choice :-)

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15 Feb 2010 14:57 #36400 by BBG
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no need for gh here, waste of time, effort and money
just stack cycles with test and sex drive will be ok
good luck

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