KeFei

24 and on GH??? Very Interesting!
GH is more for guys over 30 i would say.

18mg Dbol??? Thats something new!!

What does your Diet look like??
Your training routine??

Those are really impressive results based on what you been taking!

Sorry if i am going off the subject here guys....

Mr_Sa i am 24 and i use gh...

Does it not stunt growth to a degree, as your body stops producing GH?

who told u your body stops producing gh? no it doesnt stunt your growth,u should be fully grown by that time,if u use gh u should wait till after 24... i always take it in the morning between between break fast and my 2nd meal of the day.

if i am not mistaken your body secretes gh with in 45mins of REM sleep,so this is why u do not take it at night or at least 2 hours before sleep,
alot of guys take it all in the mid morning.doctari recommended u split your dosages up.
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/3-hgh-igf-and-insulin/218-hgh

he explains it a bit more there...

Interesting... I think i might have just found my next product to use!
Thanks for the response DJ.

I have asked this on the other post, but not sure if Doctari will reply.
When will the best time be to take HGH if i train FIRST thing in the morning?

"Another thing to keep in mind is the time of administering HGH. Your natural HGH cycle is diurnal, meaning twice a day - early mornings and during initial hours of deep sleep. So, timing is very crucial. I would suggest 40-50% of your dosage early morning, the evening dosage after training. Then you should have another third natural peak during sleep. Remember that excersize is one of the most potent stimulators of HGH secretion. Second to this, are arginine and leucine. Supplementing with these regularly at your time of HGH administration, can also assist in synergy. Timing the administration of your insulin is even more crucial. This will largely depend on what insulin product you use."

u need to use gh for a very long time,minimum 3 months,recommended 6months...it works out to be very costly.

DJ wrote:

"Another thing to keep in mind is the time of administering HGH. Your natural HGH cycle is diurnal, meaning twice a day - early mornings and during initial hours of deep sleep. So, timing is very crucial. I would suggest 40-50% of your dosage early morning, the evening dosage after training. Then you should have another third natural peak during sleep. Remember that excersize is one of the most potent stimulators of HGH secretion. Second to this, are arginine and leucine. Supplementing with these regularly at your time of HGH administration, can also assist in synergy. Timing the administration of your insulin is even more crucial. This will largely depend on what insulin product you use."

This is based on training in the evening?

that based on doctari's post.

Then when is the best time if you train FIRST thing in the morning?

Guys what is your take on serotropin versus the noma and kefei? because if its the same quality then from my grocer it works alot better on the Pocket?

I just have a quick question. Is it useless to use growth without insulin, or will one still get benefits from growth when using it alone.

Roozer wrote:

Guys what is your take on serotropin versus the noma and kefei? because if its the same quality then from my grocer it works alot better on the Pocket?

Also interested in some feedback, from what i have heard it along the same lines as kefie- works but nothing special! Rooz iam not going to be the one to say take sero over kefie>>

Peace

I was not happy with Sero at all...each to his own I suppose.

Read up on the International sites about Sero guys...not such a great review.

I would rather stick with Noma or Keifei

Well then i will have to play guinea pig next year. Will buy one sero, kefei and one noma. all exact same dose. Then we can see if the sero is shit or not

Roozer wrote:

Well then i will have to play guinea pig next year. Will buy one sero, kefei and one noma. all exact same dose. Then we can see if the sero is shit or not

WOW u have lots of money lol why dont u send me some as well :laugh:

bro truth is i lost everything last year. all assets and started this year from scratch, i am just keeping a positive wahahahaha

Hi i am 60 years old as of today's date. Started training when i was 49. Have been on various steroids for the past ten years, all the stuff we all know. Over the years i have attained a pretty damn good body and have used gear wisely and not overdone things. Always stuck to dosage, took breaks etc. My comment for those in doubt about using HGH is JUST DO IT.I tried it for the first time this year.Its Expensive stuff but i have never had veins on top of my abs in all my life before and that i got after three months use. Gives a new meaning to the word 'ripped'.Body fat pct 6.4. McDonalds meal once a week and a Mcflurry. Weight remained the same so i must have put on some more muscle size as well. I am about to start another course of this magical stuff along with some gear and see what happens. Only one problem - how do i get these complete strangers at the gym to stop coming over and asking me how i stay so cut.Its bugging my training.

big al wrote:

Hi i am 60 years old as of today's date. Started training when i was 49. Have been on various steroids for the past ten years, all the stuff we all know. Over the years i have attained a pretty damn good body and have used gear wisely and not overdone things. Always stuck to dosage, took breaks etc. My comment for those in doubt about using HGH is JUST DO IT.I tried it for the first time this year.Its Expensive stuff but i have never had veins on top of my abs in all my life before and that i got after three months use. Gives a new meaning to the word 'ripped'.Body fat pct 6.4. McDonalds meal once a week and a Mcflurry. Weight remained the same so i must have put on some more muscle size as well. I am about to start another course of this magical stuff along with some gear and see what happens. Only one problem - how do i get these complete strangers at the gym to stop coming over and asking me how i stay so cut.Its bugging my training.

what brand u using kefei? o happy bday!

Yip thats the one. an thanx 4 the h.b.

Hey Everyone.

Have you tried the new batch of KeFei, Batch no. 100322. It's Awesome. 3ml Vacuum in the bottle. I gave one to a friend who got the lumps Nothing in that department. I took 10 IU's and I got all the GH symptoms. Swelling in my feet and fingers. smoothed out. All I'm saying is well done Biotech. The month where there was no stock. well it was to sort out the issues and they have done just that. :woohoo:

Where is the best place to inject GH? For the least "welts".
Is it close to the belly button? Above, Below or Next To the belly Button??

Thanks

IM

Thanks DJ... Advice taken