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16 Aug 2010 07:25 #48794 by larsenc
This has probably been covered before, and if it has, please can you let me know where to find the info I need.
Question is this: been thinking about taking GH, but has a lot of concerns regarding it. I know that once you do, you go into a different category/class of body builder - or so i have been told - how correct is that statement? Also, I know you can see the guy in a line-up that is on GH (looks like he is pregnant) is that from abuse? how much is abuse? is the "GH tummy" inevitable whether you take your first shot or only after 10? what do you need to watch out for; do you need to watch your sugar levels, or is that only when you are taking insulin? what else do you need to take with GH, or is it only GH on its own. and lastly - is it worth it? or should i stick to the generation S?

I know there are a lot of questions, I dont like to just put stuff in my body before know everything that I need to know about it.

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16 Aug 2010 07:52 #48796 by admin

larsenc wrote: I know that once you do, you go into a different category/class of body builder - or so i have been told - how correct is that statement?


No. Even beginners have started on GH and done really well. In simple terms, GH increase the number of cells where steroids only enlarge them. So when you combine the two you get the benefits from both ways of growing...

larsenc wrote: Also, I know you can see the guy in a line-up that is on GH (looks like he is pregnant) is that from abuse? how much is abuse? is the "GH tummy" inevitable whether you take your first shot or only after 10?


Not always, some guys use GH and don't develop GH gut. I have to state as well that I think GH gut is more common if you eat big meals at a time. I think that if you limit your meal size and rather increase the number of daily meals you can keep the stretching of the stomach to a minimum. Your organs might still grow, but if you keep dosages reasonable you should be able to manage that. Also note that IGF is the main cause of GH gut.

larsenc wrote: what do you need to watch out for; do you need to watch your sugar levels, or is that only when you are taking insulin? what else do you need to take with GH, or is it only GH on its own. and lastly - is it worth it? or should i stick to the generation S?


Dosaging should be at stages NOT close to sleep or training sessions, or close to supplement ingestion containing Arginine, OKG or GABA. Better to use it early morning and later again before lunch. Follow each dosage by ingestion of at least 50-60gr high quality hydrolised whey protein, taken in at temperature of about 4 degree Celsius - this will improve gut emptying at that temp and by the time the IGF-1 is released to the gut, your whey is available for absorption. Do not use Insulin around the same time as your HGH, neither use IGF-LR3 or MGF at close to HGH dosaging.

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16 Aug 2010 08:08 #48797 by larsenc
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Hey Admin

thanks so much for the reply, know there were a couple of questions and you have covered all the issues that I had.

My next question is this: I know how to do a juice course, how do you do a GH course? is it as long as 10 weeks? how much do you inject? is it weekly, or daily? or monthly... as you can tell, pretty newbie to the GH scene.

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16 Aug 2010 08:21 #48798 by admin
Normal dosages range from 0,03IU/kg body weight to 0,06IU/kg per 24 hours. It is usually taken as two shots per day, the total daily dosage being divided. It is best injected with insulin needles and can be used subcutaneously(under the skin) or intra-muscularly.

Firstly, you will need to use it for at least 3 months to see its fat-burning, muscle building effect. You will have to use it in a pulsatile manner, meaning shots every second day gives better results than shots every day. Rather use the higher end of the dosage range on these days. For instance, instead of using 3IU's daily, opt rather for 6IU's every second day.

You will have to be strict about estrogen suppression when using HGH. Use compounds that do not easily aromatise, such as the DHT derivatives (more later on them), or use Masteron as one of your pre-contest compounds, or use Arimidex or Letrozole as an ancillary to your pre-contest prep cycle.

Remember that most of the pure medical products must be kept 2-8 degrees, cannot be shaken as it is very unstable, and should be used within 48h, preferably 24h from time of reconstitution.

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16 Aug 2010 08:29 #48799 by larsenc
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once again, thank you! from the sounds of it, i may need to sell my house to afford the course... big choice now, do I or dont I... a lot more to it than i realised. But at least I now have most of the answers i need.

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16 Aug 2010 11:55 #48819 by admin
Pleasure!

Luckily GH is becoming more affordable and it's really not rocket science to use it, there's only a couple of guidelines to follow.

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17 Aug 2010 08:53 #48896 by larsenc
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ok, so have decided that GH seems like a good option to go.

As I said before, very newbie to GH, you said that it has a shelf life of MAX 48hrs. There are a couple of options to get. Huma 16, Huma 36, Nomad GH... now prices range a lot, question is this, if I get the Huma 16 and am injecting 6IU every second day, basically in 48hrs, I will have used 12IU, so 4IU will have to be thrown away? Does it come in separate vials, or is it one vial water, one powder? kinda works out very expensive... about R900 a week? minimum of 3 months... wow, just worked out the cost... is there a cheaper option?

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17 Aug 2010 09:15 #48899 by jackrabbit1
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I think you should shop around a bit.

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17 Aug 2010 09:32 #48900 by admin

larsenc wrote: ok, so have decided that GH seems like a good option to go.

As I said before, very newbie to GH, you said that it has a shelf life of MAX 48hrs. There are a couple of options to get. Huma 16, Huma 36, Nomad GH... now prices range a lot, question is this, if I get the Huma 16 and am injecting 6IU every second day, basically in 48hrs, I will have used 12IU, so 4IU will have to be thrown away? Does it come in separate vials, or is it one vial water, one powder? kinda works out very expensive... about R900 a week? minimum of 3 months... wow, just worked out the cost... is there a cheaper option?


Humatrope, Genotropin and Norditropin Nordilet are all pharmaceutical grade GH and normally very expensive compared to generics like Nomatropin, Glotropin, Kefei and Syntropin.

When using the pharma stuff you will do pretty well on even a low dosage, because the quality is extremely good. Then there are other generics that are brand-less and guys normally call them blue or green tops depending on the dose per vial... 4iu or 8iu. The experience I have with those are that they are complete kak and I've used 16iu per day with nothing happening.

Best would be to email me and I'll show you in the right direction.

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17 Aug 2010 09:39 #48902 by larsenc
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Hi Admin

have just sent you an email...

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