Growth - Home safe is it really

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25 Oct 2010 06:43 #53823 by 00pump
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Hi guys

Hmm, just a debate I'm interested in. How safe is Growth Hormones, they have not been out long enough for us to have 30 year + studies done on them. But let me ask you this, I growth hormones are not as effective in our mid 20's and go down hill from there. Why would this happen? There is a reason our body stops producing this yet we supplement it to gain extra muscle. Just like stem cells nobody can say if it will repair a pancreas or grow an extra limb. Now how do we know we now growing tumors or what ever else that might be.

Everyone choses to look at the positive side to this 'wonder drug' but have we spent the same amount of time trying to look at the side effects and not just the short term but spent time wondering what long term side effects could be?

If this topic goes very scientific I will then elaborate a bit more in detail from a different perspective to this drug.

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26 Oct 2010 07:21 #53898 by Wayne
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Well Pump, this sounds like an interesting topic, but No one seems to be interested though:(
I would be under the impression that by usin Gh and if you are gonna get a tumor, then the GH would speed it up and get you there faster..? I would be eager to hear what the "brains trust" of this forum thinks...

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26 Oct 2010 07:48 #53901 by 00pump
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Well it has been said everyone has cancer cells in the body that can become active.

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Many people are cautious of using it as a replacement therapy for older individuals because many doctors claim that HGH will cause cancer. The best evidence that we have against this notion is from the work of Dr. Chen and Dr. Terry. Chen and Terry who run a clinic where they perform HGH injections. From 1994 – 1996 they treated more than 800 patients with HGH injections. There have not been any reports of cancer from any of the patients.

Dr. Terry stated in Grow Young with HGH,
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Now, a 2 year study is not anything to go on.

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One effect of hGH is to raise blood levels of a substance called insulin-like growth factor type I (IGF-I). Animal studies show that high levels of IGF-I cause cancer. Colon-cancer cells grow faster when exposed to IGF-I. People with a disease called acromegaly have too much IGF-1 in their blood

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As you can see this is another possible fatal side effect.

I really would like to have this argued by a MD as to what truth there is to all of this.

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26 Oct 2010 08:04 #53904 by Sting
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Im interested, just want to see what others say first. Cells will only become cancerous after 5/6 mutations occur in the genes that play a role in the devolpment of cancer.

Like Wayne said, logic says that GH will speed tumour development and spread but lots of growth factors will affect this too, growth hormone just being one of them

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27 Oct 2010 07:28 #54009 by Morphosis
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Hey Pump:

Read you post and decided to do some research, and this is one of the articles i found:

The Relationship Between Hgh And Cancer

Cancer is a disease that must be fought from every detail from medical, physiological, nutritional and even spiritual. The National Cancer Institute found out that cachexia is the reason why people die from cancer. This is a condition where the lean tissue starts to be wasted in the muscles and the supporting tissues and affects all vital organs of the body. It is also important to know its relationship with HGH.

Many doctors struggled to find out whether tumor may be acquired due through HGH therapy. However, this dilemma should be removed from the mind as there are no studies supporting the fact that HGH therapies may increase the risk of acquiring cancer. In fact, HGH therapy is beneficial in preventing the wasting of lean tissues while actually building them in accordance with what the cancer patient needs.

The myths about HGH and cancer

Prostate cancer from HGH therapies is one of the issues that need to be tackled. This is because a lot of people have quoted HGH therapies as a root cause of the disease. But again research findings declared that there is no association between HGH therapy and prostate cancer. These researches even found out that the true factor behind such a disease are lower HGH levels and higher IGF-1.

It should be remembered that HGH therapies do not contribute at all to increasing the possibilities of cancer. Moreover, these treatments focus on enhancing the well-being and immune system of individuals. HGH therapies are beneficial to cancer patients. It is recommended that people with this deadly condition should undergo such situations first as part of the steps to fight cancer.

Factors leading to greater HGH and cancer risks

Cancer risk from HGH may depend on three factors. These things affect the way HGH may be used when a person is at the cancer stage.

• Over dosage. Anything above the required is said to be too much. It is a must that HGH therapy should be administered at the right low dosage on the first stage. It may be gradually increased according to the patients’ needs.

• Genetics. Cancer has a lot to do with genetics, which is why if your ancestors suffered from cancer, you should be extra careful with your lifestyle because you have already inherited the genes that may give you cancer.

• Deficiency. It is necessary to verify first if you really need HGH therapy because HGH is only advisable for people who have inactive pituitary glands, growth disorders, and aged people.

All the studies and researches that have been done to correlate HGH with cancer are not conclusive. There are no evidences that HGH therapy is associated with the onset of tumor. The most you can do is to become cautious all the time. Everything in life should be done in moderation to achieve the success you want. Even vitamins can be dangerous if taken in excess.

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27 Oct 2010 13:50 #54052 by 00pump
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Nice article

As I said.. IGF is the big problem, and that is exactly what hGH does? So great if we can supress IGF then hGH wouldn't cause a problem? But we cannot and hGH does increase IGF so we left in a catch 22 ?

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05 Feb 2011 16:46 #60536 by Perpetuous Dreamer
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Very interesting topic...No other input from the more experienced guys?

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05 Feb 2011 17:34 #60539 by Perpetuous Dreamer
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Very interesting topic...No other input from the more experienced guys?

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26 Apr 2011 14:55 #66092 by Yohimbe
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IGF is one of big benefits of HGH.

But if you're supplementing levels back to how they were when you were younger, why didn't you get cancer when you were younger and cancer is prevalent in older people-generally-when HGH levels are lower.

Well, I'm planning on doing a cycle of IGF-1 LR3 soon so if I'm still alive to tell the tale......

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