Sytropin with Test and Deca

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09 Aug 2011 20:24 - 09 Aug 2011 20:27 #72472 by Ondier
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Good afternoon brothers in steel

Tonight's post is on behalf of a friend of mine. He wants to use Sytropin for Fat loss. And he wants to add a Deca and Test cycle to this. And obviously a good estrogen suppressor and he'll be cycling Clen and ephedrine as well.

I have read the 2 posts or so that's on here about Syntropin or Sytropin, but they were mostly meant for gaining lean mass. Are all HGH compounds used in the same way and does all of them (Somatropin) do sort of the same thing- meaning not working on your existing cells only but creating new cells? If so will the Somatropin posts on here be relevant and applicable to Sytropin too?

When and why do you use Insulin with HGH?

He is 40 and weights about 185kg now- and came down from 240kg. The last couple of months his weight stayed the same although he did do allot of cardio and eating clean.

PLease help me with recommended dosage for Sytropin for fat loss, and the period he will have to use it. I know 3 months minimum but is there a max duration of time to stop like 5 or 6 months?

And I saw you can shut down your natural HGH levels but extra high levels of test will avoid this- so what dosage of test will he use after 12 weeks- or should he stop everything at 3 months? If HGH only start working on 3 months, it sorts of defeats the purpose if he stops then right?

I believe he will have to use hcg from 12 weeks onwards if he continues the test?

Any other PCT for Sytropin?

And will normal PCT start the usual time or will Sytropin have an effect on this?

Any other advice or warnings will also be appreciated- i learned and read a shitload of info on AAS these last couple of months but didn't read much on hgh. Most posts I saw on here said it is over rated and was quite negative?

Thanks brothers

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09 Aug 2011 20:50 #72474 by Koe007
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Imo the syntropin will work at 4iu/day yes it is the same somatropin however quality differs from gh gh. I used syntropin and was not impressed when compared with Kefei. The vacuum in Kefei vials shows professionalism and my results were superior with Kefei. Gaba at 5 gr per night will assist his natural gh to be produced again whilst on hgh. Before going this expensive route to lose weight im sure you have checked his diet, cardio, training intensity. Remember if could come from 18% b/f down to 10th without cycle, or fat burner, anyone can. Secret of bodybuilding is nutrition, problem no one wants to hear that. Maybe send him to Dj im sure if he is committed it will be the best transformation we would see :)

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09 Aug 2011 21:03 #72476 by Empire
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look the best thing to do for him is to do a combination of cardio and weight training,the more muscle he has the more body fat he will burn, the negative feedback loop is there on gh but to what extent who knows,it doesnt cause a perminant shut down of gh from what i gather,do some reading up on some of doctari's posts before anything

insulin is used with gh as gh causes the body to become insulin insensitive,that being said u can use things such as alpha lipolic acid,chromium and cinnamon to combat this issue,i think if your friend is vastly over weight using insulin is the last thing on his list...

gh also bluntens your thyroid release aswell hence the reason it is advised to use t3 with gh aswell, but not completely necessary..

if using gh i would go on 5iu's a day for fat loss,i would run him just on the test alone with some arimadex as he might have estrogen related fat issues so keeping him on arimadex will help as well as some proviron, low dose of t3 to start depending on the dosage of test he is using, 600mg of test a week he can get away with 25-50mcg of t3.diet and training is essential for this to happen,it is a long process...but adding muscle is key.

please make sure he gets a fully physical before he even considers starting a weight training and heavy exercise regime!

he might not have to use hcg from 12 weeks onwards if he carries on cycle,he might be elligable for testosterone replacement therapy at his weight,age etc but he will need to go and get bloods done in order to verify this....

gh is very good stuff when used in combination with steroids,on its own its a very expensive fat burner,it helps with the building of lean quality muscle tissue.
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10 Aug 2011 08:44 #72497 by Pumped
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If ondiers friend gets a DJ diet and gets seroious about training I'm sure we could have a transformation of the year.Second to Koe007's obviously.

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10 Aug 2011 08:57 #72501 by Ondier
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Thanks Koe, DJ

Much appreciated and good info there. Have some Karma :-)

I will lay all of this out before him and he will be the one who have to decide in the end

Thanks brothers for the usual top notch feedback!

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