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Muscleaddict wrote: You will NOT get site growth from HGH. For that you need IGF1.
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DBatDBN wrote:
Muscleaddict wrote: You will NOT get site growth from HGH. For that you need IGF1.
Ah of course. Like LR3? Cycled for like 4 weeks on / 4 weeks off??
And MA, what about the question regarding needles to use, can you advise?
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Muscleaddict wrote: There is no benefit to the quicker absorption of IM shots. You get a bigger peak plasma concentration for a very short period which also increases your risk of sides like carpal tunnel symptoms.
Sub q gives a slower more constant release with less of a spike which is better.
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DBatDBN wrote:
Muscleaddict wrote: You will NOT get site growth from HGH. For that you need IGF1.
Ah of course. Like LR3? Cycled for like 4 weeks on / 4 weeks off??
And MA, what about the question regarding needles to use, can you advise?
Yea. Most of the effects of HGH that you see, and the growth of new muscle cells are caused by IGF-1. HGH causes a massive increase in IGF-1 production in your liver, so the HGH must first travel from the injection site to your liver, and then the IGF-1 hits your bloodstream before it goes looking for receptors to stimulate growth. Simple explanation.
Stick with slin pins.
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Muscleaddict wrote: Thanks Koe. That's interesting. I've been wondering about that but didn't think the amounts of igf released in muscle would be significant enough for local growth since most igf1 is made in the liver. There seems to be alot of people claiming yes and no, but if it's working for you then I definitely will leave the final word with you on this considering your experience with gh.
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Muscleaddict wrote: Thanks Koe. That's interesting. I've been wondering about that but didn't think the amounts of igf released in muscle would be significant enough for local growth since most igf1 is made in the liver. There seems to be alot of people claiming yes and no, but if it's working for you then I definitely will leave the final word with you on this considering your experience with gh.
Every little bit of tweaks helps with adding another brick to the foundation, I find it harder to pick up quality size so small changes like im and in diet and cycles add up in the end. There are so many differing opinions, I always try for myself and find what suits me best, we are all different so naturally our responses and receptors will be to.
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Muscleaddict wrote: Thanks Koe. That's interesting. I've been wondering about that but didn't think the amounts of igf released in muscle would be significant enough for local growth since most igf1 is made in the liver. There seems to be alot of people claiming yes and no, but if it's working for you then I definitely will leave the final word with you on this considering your experience with gh.
Every little bit of tweaks helps with adding another brick to the foundation, I find it harder to pick up quality size so small changes like im and in diet and cycles add up in the end. There are so many differing opinions, I always try for myself and find what suits me best, we are all different so naturally our responses and receptors will be to.
Thank you Koe. This brings us back to the original question.
What needles/syringes for IM? I'm hoping I can still use insulin needles and maybe just jam them in as deep as possible?!?!:lol:
And as for timing, if I can recall, I would pin the site straight after training that muscle.
This leads to another question (sorry :blush: ), but using GH straight after training, what about my Post-workout fix??
In my case Cell-Tech (VERY HIGH insulin spike), followed by High Protein/High Carb Shake.
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DBatDBN wrote: Ok so I use the insulin needles, meaning I shouldn't bother with site injections? (e.g. calves....)
Thank you SOOO much for your help guys.
Tomorrow is my last shot of Test, it's bitter sweet, no more Testno more injection
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DBatDBN wrote: Koe, aren't you also in Durban? (and DJ)
Any particular spot in the calf? (Only ever pinned Sub-q or Glute)
Do I still aspirate? (missing veins etc.)
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Koe007 wrote:
DBatDBN wrote: Koe, aren't you also in Durban? (and DJ)
Any particular spot in the calf? (Only ever pinned Sub-q or Glute)
Do I still aspirate? (missing veins etc.)
Was there for the long weekend with Dj on a few occasions to train and visit. I'm back home now though.
Outer and inner head, yes aspirate. 25mcg/head that's 100mcg per shot on both calves.
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Koe007 wrote:
DBatDBN wrote: Koe, aren't you also in Durban? (and DJ)
Any particular spot in the calf? (Only ever pinned Sub-q or Glute)
Do I still aspirate? (missing veins etc.)
Was there for the long weekend with Dj on a few occasions to train and visit. I'm back home now though.
Outer and inner head, yes aspirate. 25mcg/head that's 100mcg per shot on both calves.
Thanks Koe.
You've thrown me another curve-ball! mcg?? I reconstituted the Hyge GH 10iu vile with 1ml water (bacteriostatic). So using a slin pin (100units=1ml) doing 25units x 2 p.d = 2.5iu x 2 p.d.
ml is volume, mcg is mass. How do I now convert?
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Muscleaddict wrote: Thanks Koe. That's interesting. I've been wondering about that but didn't think the amounts of igf released in muscle would be significant enough for local growth since most igf1 is made in the liver. There seems to be alot of people claiming yes and no, but if it's working for you then I definitely will leave the final word with you on this considering your experience with gh.
Every little bit of tweaks helps with adding another brick to the foundation, I find it harder to pick up quality size so small changes like im and in diet and cycles add up in the end. There are so many differing opinions, I always try for myself and find what suits me best, we are all different so naturally our responses and receptors will be to.
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