What would you do ? (Experienced guys please )

Hi All ,

I'd like to do a 6 month GH course next year ( first time for GH ever )and was wondering :

1)Should one do a long cycle at the begining of the course ? or

2)2 shorter cycles , 1 at the begining
and 1 near the end of the course ? .

I have only used a few different stacks before with good success , but never GH .

My goal will be to add as much quality
size as possible .

Some info on me :

32 years old , started at 56 kg and training for 16 years , height 5 ft 10.5 , weight- currently 108 kg (after dieting for the last 10 weeks from 117 kg - just to see how lean i can get - personal goal .....) .

Looking forward to your ideas here ...

DD

ummm well i recon what u should do,personal option i guess is run the GH for 3months on its own in order for it to help cut your body fat down to a decent level. when u are some what lean i would do a 12 week cycle with the last 12weeks of your gh to rip u down even further and that way your decent muscle growth will look better at the lower body fat levels...just my opinion...

Interesting idea DJ , i am currently at the 11% bf mark , and don't plan on getting too much leaner , unless it occurs naturally while puting on size with next year's cycle .

Anyone else got a good suggestion / opinion as well ? .

Id Run a 7 weeker Anabolics at the begining. 7 weeks off with PCT. Then another 7 weeks and then PCT. Just my 2 cents. Or a 16 week monster cycle. With full Pct at the end

Thanks MxT , another 2 options to ponder over ......

I like the cycle in the middle as MxT suggested. I also prefer that if you are a GH newbie. It gives you time to experience just the GH and injection protocols and effects etc with no other compound in the mix. I would go for 12 weeks in the middle so you can do your PCT and still have GH support after.

I have seen allot of guys that run GH and gear and stop both at the same time and end up crashing bad due to lack of anabolism and high estrogen and cortisol levels.

Maybe try this as an option. (using your GH base of 6 months)
Start with GH for 4 weeks (1 month), see how you like it and the effects in this short period. Mainly there to get used to the shots and get to know the mixing etc etc.
Hit a 12 weeker and short ester on the back end (this would allow for PCT to start sooner and recovery quicker)
PCT would be 2-3 weeks about and depending
That would leave you time for your body to adjust to the new muscle mass and minimize gains loss.

Just remember your biggest gains loss will happen 6-8 weeks post cycle (gear) and you will need your GH support then.

Thanks Netro , i am glad there are guys like you and the others here to assist .

After all it is a lot of money to throw
away if one uses the wrong protocol/ timing etc ...

DD

Okay so here's the game plan :BTW I started 3 weeks ago :

month 1 - GH only - 4iu p/d split in half
Month 2 - GH only - 4iu p/d split in half
Month 3 - d/bol , t-enth , equi , GH
Month 4 - t-enth , equi , GH
Month 5 - GH only - 4iu p/d split in half
Month 6 - GH only - 4iu p/d split in half .

I have clomid and ovidrel for Pct . There are so many write ups about pct protocol that i am still deciding which one to follow .....

Progress so far : My starting point was a slightly leaner 108 kg than when i first started this thread . It's been 3 weeks now and i have added 1 kg by slowly upping my protein intake , nothing drastic .Being that the goal is to put some decent quality size , i will slowly start increasing my calorie intake . Currently 70% protein / 15% carbs / 15% good fats . Will start inreasing carbs soon ......

I will keep you guys updated of progress as i go along , if anyone is interested....

DD

Just my quick 2 cents..
- go with what MXT suggested
- personally, IMHO, your calory ratios are a bit "off" . Way too much protein. Be careful for kidney damage.. I would rather go for 50% prot/30% carb/20% good fats. Read the article written by Mark Stent on Carb Cycling in the last ME Mag. Try this. If you want to grow, switch the prot vs carb %'s around.

Thanks Doctari , i am in the process of amending my macro ratios and a few other things.
Your input is always valuable .......

Progress :

I have changed my macro nutrient intake to more carbs .
I start my cycle this coming monday . Thought i would start a bit sooner and run the GH for a longer period post cycle . Been using GH now for 5 weeks , still can't make up my mind about it maybe still early days ...
Bodyweight is now 111 kg .

Progress :

All things have remained constant . My weight is up to 114 kg , composition wise much better
than same weight same time last year .

If anyone can assist with this : My finger joints (only) are sore for the last 3 weeks or so,
can this be from the GH ? . My daily dose is 4 iu .

Take some strong EFA's and Antioxidants. I use prosiden makes my joints feel like new.