insulin

Ok so we need a proper thread on insulin on the forum. This is not a drug inexperienced guys should use or a drug that should be played with. Screw up once and you are dead.

Does anyone here have experience with it? After I've been reading up a lot on it the past few days I have a few questions about it myself.
•The safest way to use it is post workout between 1 and 10iu's which you tapper up from 1iu. Over what period of time?
•how does one cycle it exactly? 3 weeks on 3 weeks off or can it be used for the duration of the entire steroid cycle?
•How much simple sugars and protein do you need when you are eventually on 10iu's PWO? I read 15g per iu of slin
• I read that slin is stable up to 1month at room temp, so its okay to post it?

Delivery methods are not to be discussed. Edit your posr jakes....

Well I edited it, don't know how one can ask that question in any other way ha ha.

Just contact admin via e-mail. He'll help you out.
Personally slin isnt something i would mess with.
So much other goodies to try before it comes to that.

Help me out with what? All I need is information I don't want to know about delivery methods or anything. I can get the stuff I'd just like to know if one can post it?
And the questions I listed... I don't want to use the stuff yet, I'd just like to broaden my understanding and knowledge of it so if I use it someday I'll be clued up...

After steroids, IGF, GH then slin is the next step...

jakes wrote: Ok so we need a proper thread on insulin on the forum. This is not a drug inexperienced guys should use or a drug that should be played with. Screw up once and you are dead.

Does anyone here have experience with it? After I've been reading up a lot on it the past few days I have a few questions about it myself.
•The safest way to use it is post workout between 1 and 10iu's which you tapper up from 1iu. Over what period of time?
•how does one cycle it exactly? 3 weeks on 3 weeks off or can it be used for the duration of the entire steroid cycle?
•How much simple sugars and protein do you need when you are eventually on 10iu's PWO? I read 15g per iu of slin
• I read that slin is stable up to 1month at room temp, so its okay to post it?

Simple start at 2iu's and have your usual dextrose and protein and test yourself, 15min after and again 30 to 45min

You don't 'cycle' insulin, just use it, but give yourself a break as the last thing you want is for your pancreas to stop secreting insulin.

There is no right or wrong way, and you can't say x grams for x amount of carbs as your pancreas is producing insulin and so is your liver playing a part at secreting.

It is fine to post it, put additional pens in the fridge and the pen you using can be stored at room temperature..

- don't start a cycle without someone knowing
- don't start using it without a glucose pen on hand
- don't use it unless you have testing sticks and a monitor...

Can I buy the glucose pen, testing sticks and the monitor at the pharmacy? And also what duration does the break have to be and after how long "on" should it take place?

Thanks bro.

Testing kits you get at pharmancy, and comes with 1 pack of testing sticks. Glucose pens too, keep it in the fridge. I don't have an answer to how long on, I'd go for around 2 to 3 months and a month break. It can add in becoming insulin resistant, in this case I like to add chromium to each meal, either before the meal or with it. Inject after your food...

Testing kits you get at pharmancy, and comes with 1 pack of testing sticks. Glucose pens too, keep it in the fridge. I don't have an answer to how long on, I'd go for around 2 to 3 months and a month break. It can add in becoming insulin resistant, in this case I like to add chromium to each meal, either before the meal or with it. Inject after your food...

Will 200mcg of it be sufficient?

Ok this is what a very close friend and a well experiencedinsulin user says about insulin : only ever use insulin once u have reached a plataue that u cannot fix by adding in more food,if u arent gaining and u can fit in another 1000 calories into your diet then insulin is not for u,if u cant force in any more food and cant grow any more u can use insulin,10iu a day max dose only on training days.

200mcg? Read through this to get a better understanding of mcg,mg,iu, etc

00pump wrote: 200mcg? Read through this to get a better understanding of mcg,mg,iu, etc

200mcg chromium bud

Lol, I should have said chromium. Thanks dj ha ha

Sorry for hijacking the post but this is the way i see it, please help me if im wrong.

Your bodies natural homeostatis shuts you down when on juice, so wouldnt your pancreas too get shut down if you take slin? And become a diabetic forever?

It is very possible.

gorilla wrote: Sorry for hijacking the post but this is the way i see it, please help me if im wrong.

Your bodies natural homeostatis shuts you down when on juice, so wouldnt your pancreas too get shut down if you take slin? And become a diabetic forever?

Very real possibility, would you risk it? like I said, one shouldn't just play with slin...

Eish...Sounds to risky for me. How safe is IGF ?

Yes a very real side effect is becoming diabetic, Pump gave a very good protocol, except I would say cycle 3 weeks on and 3 weeks off for about 3 months then do a pct and take a long break. The PCT I read up on includes Chromium, ALA and Glucophage.

mmmmm a insulin pct. Sounds interesting. Can you elaborate on this Koe007

From what I have read they say that exogenous administration of insulin does make you insulin resistant, hence the use of a pct to aid in bringing the body back to a state of homeostasis.

Diabetes is serious stuff, it has a chain reaction in terms of kidney damage, longer healing of organs and from injury, and it only gets worse with age.
Even GH15 a guy who is a believer in higher dosages and year long cycles does not really advocate insulin usage, he state s however that it is required to get to the monstrous sizes we see today in bodybuilding.

Aii...Personally I wouldnt touch the stuff or advise usage unless you want to be a pro

My brothers are both type 1. One is insulin resistant where he can take 20 to 30 units at a time and sugars are all over the place. Unless I'm pro I wouldn't use it.

00pump wrote: My brothers are both type 1. One is insulin resistant where he can take 20 to 30 units at a time and sugars are all over the place. Unless I'm pro I wouldn't use it.

What makes insulin so dangerous to use?

The fact of becoming a diabetic and i think think its called hypoglycaemia or something then you go into a coma and perhaps dont wake up. But I could be wrong