Low dose Clomid (25mg EOD) to restore test levels

  • Muscleaddict
  • Topic Author
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
More
06 Jun 2012 14:55 - 06 Jun 2012 14:58 #107073 by Muscleaddict
For the guys who are interested in this stuff and for guys struggling to get their test levels up again even after PCT: 2 recently published studies showed that Clomid is effective at raising hypogonadal testosterone levels to normal levels EVEN at very low doses of only 25mg EOD.

-In the one study 86 hypogonadal men (average age 29) treated with only clomid: Total testosterone levels went from an average of 192 ng/dL at baseline to 485 ng/dL. 70% of the men were using only 25mg clomid every 2nd day.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22044663

-In the other study with 46 hypogonadal men (average age 44) treated with only clomid: Total test levels were 228 ng/dL, and went up to 612 ng/dL! All men were only using 25mg clomid every 2nd day

Many guys can't handle the side effects of clomid at 50mg+ per day. Clomid can make you feel like a depressed premenstrual chick! But, if these results are anything to go by this might be a very good alternative way to treating post PCT low testosterone levels. At a low 25mg EOD or 12.5mg a day the side effects should not be an issue.
Last edit: 06 Jun 2012 14:58 by Muscleaddict.
The following user(s) said Thank You: Bench86

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • gorilla
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
06 Jun 2012 14:59 #107075 by gorilla
So you reckon a pct could be extended with 25mg clomid daily for better results?

Lets go!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Muscleaddict
  • Topic Author
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
More
06 Jun 2012 15:25 - 06 Jun 2012 15:27 #107080 by Muscleaddict
Replied by Muscleaddict on topic Low dose Clomid (25mg EOD) to restore test levels

gorilla wrote: So you reckon a pct could be extended with 25mg clomid daily for better results?


The studies used 25mg EOD. Basically 12.5mg/day. I'd only say it's worthwhile if you are struggling to get your testosterone levels back to normal post pct. A young guy like you on a normal 8-12 week cycle shouldn't have to worry about that. With older guys 35+, cycles 16+ weeks or after a very suppressive cycle (unless prolacti is the culprit) would make more sense. Ideally you want to let your htpa do its thing to function on it's own.

Dr. Crisler and Dr. Shippen who treat hypogonadism are also both offering this 12.5mg/day protocol with hypogonadal patients as an alternative to the usual test + ai treatment.
Last edit: 06 Jun 2012 15:27 by Muscleaddict.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • gorilla
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
06 Jun 2012 15:32 #107082 by gorilla
Thanks for that one bud. The pct im looking to do is 100mg clomid for a week? Which is a moerse dose imo, you think this is fine or should I rather go for 50mg?

Lets go!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • MK
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
06 Jun 2012 15:37 #107085 by MK
+1 MuscleAddict, always sharing your knowledge and research findings with us, thanks bud.

How long would you say one should run that dose of Clomid for, if experiencing fatigue, decrease in strength, decreased endurance etc post cycle? I was planning on getting a supplement like Universal Animal Test, Tribulus, ZMA or some DAA to elevate my test levels to where they were. But that would obviously cost a lot more than a small dose of Clomid.

What would you recommend?

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • 00pump
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
More
06 Jun 2012 15:44 #107091 by 00pump
I would still use Nolva over the Clomid.

"Whether You Think You Can or Can't, You're Right"--Henry Ford

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • gorilla
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
06 Jun 2012 15:48 #107095 by gorilla
Pump what would you say is a really really good pct with your hpta recovering as fast as posssible?

Lets go!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • 00pump
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
More
06 Jun 2012 15:52 #107099 by 00pump
Well I have used 2 X Option 3 now, and then finished it off with an extra 15 days of Nolva then moved to 50mg Clomid for 15 days. My Libido is still not back to were I want it, and doubt it ever will be. So now its time to make babies, then i'll move back to test.

"Whether You Think You Can or Can't, You're Right"--Henry Ford

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • INCUBUS
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
06 Jun 2012 16:00 #107102 by INCUBUS

gorilla wrote: Thanks for that one bud. The pct im looking to do is 100mg clomid for a week? Which is a moerse dose imo, you think this is fine or should I rather go for 50mg?


I have just finished 100mg a day of clomid and didint get a period !! :P
The following user(s) said Thank You: gorilla

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • gorilla
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
06 Jun 2012 16:02 #107104 by gorilla
What caused this drop in libido?

Have you tried bremalanotide something like that? I heard it makes you horny as shit! Hahaha

Lets go!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Muscleaddict
  • Topic Author
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
More
06 Jun 2012 16:52 #107127 by Muscleaddict
Replied by Muscleaddict on topic Low dose Clomid (25mg EOD) to restore test levels

00pump wrote: I would still use Nolva over the Clomid.


Yes, for PCT I prefer nolva if it's one or the other. Better as a serm and 20mg nolva boosts LH more than 100mg Clomid. But nolva isn't recommended by endo/urologists. Go figure.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Muscleaddict
  • Topic Author
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
More
06 Jun 2012 17:03 #107130 by Muscleaddict
Replied by Muscleaddict on topic Low dose Clomid (25mg EOD) to restore test levels

MK wrote: +1 MuscleAddict, always sharing your knowledge and research findings with us, thanks bud.

How long would you say one should run that dose of Clomid for, if experiencing fatigue, decrease in strength, decreased endurance etc post cycle? I was planning on getting a supplement like Universal Animal Test, Tribulus, ZMA or some DAA to elevate my test levels to where they were. But that would obviously cost a lot more than a small dose of Clomid.

What would you recommend?


If need be, 12.5mg is such a low, harmless dose and since it's been shown to work I would do 1 month without even worrying. I'd still do DAA as well.
The following user(s) said Thank You: MK

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • aspoester
  • Elite Member
  • Elite Member
More
07 Jun 2012 00:04 #107195 by aspoester
Great post, very informative man kudos for bringing it to the table :)

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Pyroclasm
  • New Member
  • New Member
More
07 Jun 2012 02:11 #107197 by Pyroclasm
Muscleaddict +1 for your effort keep it up bro!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Powered by Kunena Forum