Need to boost my libido for a week mid PCT

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02 Aug 2012 13:15 - 02 Aug 2012 13:16 #116178 by ChrisZA
Guys, I'm looking for some considered and serious thoughts please, this is rather serious for me :(

I'm taking the GF overseas for a week end of August. It's a whoppingly expensive biz class trip. I went thro a brutal shutdown after a cycle including Tren and excluding HCG, which included a lack of libido like I never knew existed (viagra etc do nothing). This after a year of unreal sex - ie it's not age or circulation. I take bloods pretty regularly, and looking back I think it all went wrong when my E2 went too high (over 300 despite daily arimidex 1mg) and later it came down but by then my total test was down to under 10, with free test under 20 (ie 0)! Believe me guys, Viagra doesn't work when you're that low. Don't believe the BS that u can just use V to get thro this - you WILL lose ur GF or even wife if they are not on board before this hits.

Latest bloods show (Lancett measures and standards):
  • E2 46 (nice)
  • Test tot 10.2 (still below min ref range of 12)
  • SHBG 38 (ok)
  • Test free 183 (still below ref range of 200, WAY below required 600 for sex!)
  • LH 1.6 (now in ref range and it's ben under 0.5 since mid cycle)
  • FSH 2 (ditto)
So, I've been on Doctari's PCT for 3 weeks now. I can get it up, under duress, but there's no spontaneity, even on V. So here's what I'm planning:
  • If by mid August my bloods are not up to the 600 range for free test OR if V is not yet doing it's thing
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  • Then introduce 2 weeks of test cyp 1ml/wk, plus 100mg proviron daily (sounds like best combo for libido)
  • [/li]
  • Add HCG 250IU/day, and arimidex 1mg/day
  • Pin a 2ml test booster before I leave
My thinking is that this is enuff to boost free test by 200 points or so, control E2, and yet not push me back into shutdown. BTW I want LH/FSH to run properly cos getting the GF pregnant is a clear and present objective.

My questions are:
  • Will this boost my test and thus libido in time? ie is 2 weeks enuff?
  • Does anyone know what is a desirable range for E2 that doesn't hammer libido. I've heard 10-30 pmol/l is best, but I'm not clear on what too low actually is.
  • Now most importantly, will this undo my PCT? Mid august is actually a full week AFTER my PCT ends.
BTW, I've been taking weekly LH/FSH/Test/E2 bloods from end of cycle right thro Doctari's PCT. I'll be posting these 8 weeks of results in 2 weeks time.
Last edit: 02 Aug 2012 13:16 by ChrisZA.

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03 Aug 2012 08:07 #116262 by jackrabbit1
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I think you'll be ok Testosterone wise with Doc's PCT by then.
Consider a high Progesterone level maybe seeing you were on Tren? Cabaser. Search for posts about this.

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03 Aug 2012 10:03 #116275 by ChrisZA
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thanks for that - didn;t even know to check progesterone levels!

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03 Aug 2012 10:30 #116281 by gab
JACKRABBIT IS RIGHT

get cabaser. tren have progestin and prolactin side efects. you can use parlodel to but have some nasty side effects.
see how it goes after that but maybe consulting your doc is not a bad idea.

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03 Aug 2012 11:07 - 03 Aug 2012 11:32 #116289 by ChrisZA
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OK, I've read a bit. Cabaser seems to lower prolactin, not progesterone. It's prolactin I shud be controlling right? progesterone sounds like something one would want to supplement to boost test production. I further understand Tren increases prolactin and lowers progesterone. So whilst cabaser sounds like a good move (just checking price), it's to control the prolactin right?

Oh, on dosage I understand 0.5mg/week x 2 weeks ie 4 tabs and that shud do the trick. SOund right?

Thanks guys! I truly do value this input. And as for my GP, I've got a stunning guy who's extremely open minded, BUT one has very limited time to debate these matters and one discovers stuff all the time. So cycling backwards and forwards to him is not really practical.

PS: can I go to lancet and test prolactin? Or do I need to test some other function rather?
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03 Aug 2012 12:04 #116296 by Muscleaddict
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Tren is structurally very similar to progesterone so it binds to and activates the progesterone receptor. Elevated estrogen along with that leads to elevated prolactin.

The thing with prolactin is the prolactin receptor needs both estrogen and progesterone for full activity and when you are on test (high estrogen conversion) plus tren which is very similar to progesterone you have the perfect conditions for prolactin turbo mode.

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03 Aug 2012 13:06 #116299 by ChrisZA
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Thanks guys. Arigoline is the currently available generic for Cabergoline. R150/0.5mg tab. Not as shocking as I feared. Man, if this brings back my libido I'll owe this board BIG time!!!

0.5mg per week, right? Or do I slot it all today n go balls-to-the-wall tonight :P :P

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03 Aug 2012 13:10 #116301 by gab
just dont use tren without test. maybe learn more about gear before atempting any gear again.and make sure you have all your meds for during and after cycle.

hope you are ok after the cab and if not go see your doc. dont mess with things like impotence.

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03 Aug 2012 14:45 #116311 by ChrisZA
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Didn't use tren alone. I research and planned a very exhaustive cycle (this is far from my first) and at the last minute my supplier suggested I add tren for its cutting properties. I read up briefly - too briefly :(
I also get my PCT lined up well before I start my cycle.

I've just never dealt with a shutdown like this before. Losing mass is fine, but losing my jags like this!! Yowser! There should be a forum dedicated to guiding ppl on how to avoid and manage this cos one's initial research takes one to awful ED places before one comes back here and finds the post cycle libido issue. Hell, I spent a fortune on NO boosting products cos I figured that was why V was failing on me. I interrupted my last PCT when I panicked and pinned 3ml of T before a DW. It's been tuff as hell to bear out a full 2-month (bridge then PCT) recovery period.

Lesson to everyone here!

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07 Aug 2012 19:42 #116869 by johnnyBolic
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Dear Chris;Why dont you go see a Urologist.I know Drs are not all that cooperative with us regarding what they see as Abuse. Who gives a shit,it their medical duty to assist you.Bro theres no such are thing as a SEx drive for just a week,although its a nice idea.Viagara will get you hard,but not HORNY.I have been on Tran Acetate for a week now,I really dont think its worth the Constant Sweating,and Cardio DE-Conditioning,I used regulal Testosterone for over 20yrs and only have good to report.Tren made for COWS (Belgium Blue,like in the movie,Bigger,stronger and faster.see ya johnny

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