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24 Mar 2013 09:47 #135119 by Essie
Hi Guys,

I have also been a member on what is probably one of the most known BB Boards on the net and noticed a strange thing poke out it's head as of late regarding HCG.

Below is the actual summary of what is being propogated ... any views?

"HCG administration post-cycle is common practice among bodybuilders in the belief that it will aid the natural testosterone recovery, but this theory is unfounded and also counterproductive. The rapid rise in both testosterone, and thus oestrogen due to aromatisation, from the administration of HCG causes further inhibition of the HPTA (Hypothalamic/Pituitary/Testicular Axis - feedback loop discussed above); this actually worsens the recovery situation. HCG does not restore the natural testosterone production."

Should be used to keep the boys full during cycle or you can blast at the end of cycle to get things going but it's counterproductive in PCT

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24 Mar 2013 11:16 #135120 by SNOK1986
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Interesting but from what I have experienced personally. HCG and Ovidrel have worked like a bomb in my PCT's. Also I will go with a doctors advice rather who based his studies on PCT instead of unqualified speculation. No offence just saying :)

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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24 Mar 2013 11:50 - 24 Mar 2013 11:50 #135121 by Muscleaddict
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The point of HCG is to keep your balls producing testosterone so that you prevent downregulation of leydig cells which make the testosterone. When you are on steroids and your balls stop working, your leydig cells which are now doing nothing reduce drastically in number. Then when you start PCT (if you haven't been using HCG), your body must now start making more leydig cells which can take time and delay recovery even longer. That is why we use HCG.

Yes, using large doses of HCG is counterproductive because you will elevate estrogen levels due to aromatisation. But that is also why we recommend the use of aromasin in PCT #3 to elimate estrogen, and why we use low doses of around 250IU HCG when using it on cycle to keep our testes working.
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24 Mar 2013 13:21 #135123 by Essie
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Muscleaddict wrote: The point of HCG is to keep your balls producing testosterone so that you prevent downregulation of leydig cells which make the testosterone. When you are on steroids and your balls stop working, your leydig cells which are now doing nothing reduce drastically in number. Then when you start PCT (if you haven't been using HCG), your body must now start making more leydig cells which can take time and delay recovery even longer. That is why we use HCG.

Yes, using large doses of HCG is counterproductive because you will elevate estrogen levels due to aromatisation. But that is also why we recommend the use of aromasin in PCT #3 to elimate estrogen, and why we use low doses of around 250IU HCG when using it on cycle to keep our testes working.

Hence why I have always pinned 500iu split into 2 doses per week while on cycle and incorporated it into my PCT with nolva and clomid on pct. Haven't ever used Aromasin in PCT before and last time I ran a cycle and pct I almost paid the price for it as Gyno started to pop out it's ugly head.

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24 Mar 2013 13:23 #135124 by Essie
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SNOK1986 wrote: Interesting but from what I have experienced personally. HCG and Ovidrel have worked like a bomb in my PCT's. Also I will go with a doctors advice rather who based his studies on PCT instead of unqualified speculation. No offence just saying :)

Son't worry Bud ... none taken. I just thought I'd place it here and see what my ppl have to say about this. :lol:

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