Superdrol only PCT.

I am asking this more out of interest. I have a few friends who have done sdrol ONLY cycles. Most of them kept about 80-85% of their gains 6-8 months after pct.

What sort of pct would one run for an sdrol only cycle? I am posting this in pct section because I am not interested in the whole "oral only" cycle debate. From what I know most guys do clomid/nolva. But one of my friends have done clomid only (exemestane?). He run the stane on cycle and in pct.

Also, I have done a lot of reading on sdrol only cycles but what I haven't really been able to find answers for are the reasons for the delayed gyno that some people experience. Also, some people mention high prolactin though I can't confirm this. I would just like some input. I have sdrol and clomid and am keen on mabey doing a 3-4 week cycle, but want to understand pct first and buy what's needed.

I am fairly muscular and have been cutting for a while now, and thought about either doing a bulk or body recomp. Can one add hcg eventhough its just an oral, to prevent shutdown? Thanks

Personally I would do nolva and clomid. Hcg wouldn't be necessary.

I have done a lot of Superdrol abd the various clones over about the last 8 years. It gives amazing results but it is extremely liver/toxic and delayed gyno is a serious issue. Superdrol does not aromatize or bind to progestin receptors which is why it's mechanism for causing gyno is very confusing.

It's quite a boring complicated explanation, but the gist of it is that although Superdrol does not increase prolactin, most of its actions are actually caused by its metabolites which do cause an increase in prolactin. This prolactin can stay elevated for months after your Superdrol cycle and keep your natural testosterone very suppressed. The imbalance also raises estrodiol levels which leads to gyno and even lactation from the prolactin.

I spent ages searching for post cycle bloodwork after Superdrol on other forums and found that elevated prolactin is a real problem for many guys as well as estrodiol.

If you can not get cabaser/dostinex or parlodel to sort out possible prolactin issues you must be crazy to risk it. Some guys have had screwed up test levels for many months after Superdrol and depression. Everyone's body is different so you don't know how you will respond.

As always your insight is much appreciated MA. How would one go about administering the cabaser? Is it also a question of waiting for sides to rear their heads, or using it eod? Also, what would your opinion be on a sufficient PCT? Would cabaser be sufficient to sort out the possible prolactin issues?

Or rather, can I ask you to help me with a 'guide' for a sdrol only cycle. I was thinking 10/20/20 (might push up to 20 before end of first week depending on how I feel) otherwise 10/20/20/20.

I have been 'preloading' milk thistle and also have liversentials, red yeast rice, something for blood pressure and then the regular vits for on cycle. But just with regards to pct and cabaser dosage/managing sides. Thanks in advance

Exemestane is not clomid. It's aromasin. It's that what he used?

I would not do a Superdrol only cycle again but if I was in your position I would start cabaser a week before I start PCT in my last week on Superdol at 0.5mg twice a week and run it through PCT for 4 weeks total.

If you do a PCT with high prolactin levels the PCT will be pretty much useless and you risk delaying hpta recovery for months.

For PCT nolvadex/clomid is fine. Just remember that nolvadex does nothing for Superdrol gyno.

I found that 3 weeks on Superdol is enough. After that the gains are minimal and side effects get worse. 10/20/20 is fine. If in the 3rd week you have no bad side effects and feel good you can bump it to 30. With a drug like Superdrol I think it's best to see how your cycle is going after 2 weeks before you decide what to do next.

Thanx MA! Good Info on Superdrol is very hard to come by. +1

Muscleaddict wrote: I have done a lot of Superdrol abd the various clones over about the last 8 years. It gives amazing results but it is extremely liver/toxic and delayed gyno is a serious issue. Superdrol does not aromatize or bind to progestin receptors which is why it's mechanism for causing gyno is very confusing.

It's quite a boring complicated explanation, but the gist of it is that although Superdrol does not increase prolactin, most of its actions are actually caused by its metabolites which do cause an increase in prolactin. This prolactin can stay elevated for months after your Superdrol cycle and keep your natural testosterone very suppressed. The imbalance also raises estrodiol levels which leads to gyno and even lactation from the prolactin.

I spent ages searching for post cycle bloodwork after Superdrol on other forums and found that elevated prolactin is a real problem for many guys as well as estrodiol.

If you can not get cabaser/dostinex or parlodel to sort out possible prolactin issues you must be crazy to risk it. Some guys have had screwed up test levels for many months after Superdrol and depression. Everyone's body is different so you don't know how you will respond.

Dude......ur a legend! Ur knowledge is priceless.

SD strikes again..

Yea he used Exemestane which he gave me aswell. I'm so keen on doing a cycle since the gain are quite impressive but after reading up some more on the gyno it seems there are too many unknown variables involved with sdrol. Guess I'll give it a pass.

Annoying :pinch:

I still do not understand completely. So cabaser is used for prolactin sides and I am assuming the gyno? I understand nolva won't do anything for sdrol gyno (might in fact make it worse?) But will cabaser then suffice? or is the gyno a gamble that might be untreatable?

I don't recommend any oral only cycles but I would recommend many other orals over superdrol if you are dead set on only using oral steroids. The risks with Superdrol are just much higher. Very little is known about it compared to dbol, winny, var, tbol etc, and side effects are hard to manage if you get them.

You can not get gyno from only having elevated prolatin. You need estrogen as well.
There are a few theories about why Superdrol causes gyno and especially delayed gyno like that it frees up bound estrogen by lowering SHBG and the resulting elevated estrogen is to blame. Also that nolvadex upregulates prolactin receptors which can cause delayed gyno after PCT because of your already elevated prolactin. You can find studies that make all the theories seem logical, but there is still too much guessing going on to be sure.

One thing that is certain though is that blood tests show elevated estrodiol and prolactin levels after using Superdrol in some guys and when this happens you should ideally treat both. If you want to take the risk go ahead but before you do, just do a google on delayed gyno and superdrol and you will see it is VERY common and has caused major problems for many people. With an AI and cabaser you could be ready for side effects sure, but it will still be a huge pain in the ass.