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01 Oct 2014 18:20 #175572 by l1qu1d
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Afternoon gents,

I have a colleague at work who says he's jabbed himself with all sorts of shart (test/tren-a/masteron) about a year ago - didn't bother with any sort of PCT, now it appears karma is coming to collect. He says he has developed some mild tissue development in his left breast, no itchiness/sensitivity - only puffy. I'm trying to give the sod a hand and have done some reading on the forums, found a few older posts about a few options for a 'gyno protocol' does this still stand? Should he rather try and run PCT3? Or is it too little too late.

Info I've found on the forums here:

anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/4-cycle-dis...r-after-cycle#154374

"Take 0.5mg letro daily to start and 20mg nolva and if the gyno goes down you can lower to 0.3mg per day, do that until it has shrunk/gone. When stopping the letro take 20mg Nolva for another two weeks.


anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/5-post-cycl...feeling-awful#154040

"I find the best thing for my every time is Nolva, it gets to work right away, that bundled with aromasin (this is a magic drug) seems to revert most stubborn tissue, and the beauty of it, doesn't come with the harsh sides and near immediate flue I get when using letro. the gyno goes down you can lower to 0.3mg per day, do that until it has shrunk/gone. When stopping the letro take 20mg Nolva for another two weeks."


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01 Oct 2014 18:37 #175575 by Rhino
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If he's already developed some breast tissue and taking the time into account his only option is surgery. Letro may reduce it slightly while he's using it but as soon as he stops it'll be back. Go and have a look at some of 00pumps threads he studied and tried everything when is comes to Gyno and he ended up having multiple surgeries.
The only time letro works is if you catch it early(I mean within a couple of days) not months and that will only reduce the size of the lump but as for breast tissue not a snowballs chance in Hell.

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01 Oct 2014 18:44 #175576 by l1qu1d
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Thanks Rhino - yes my understanding is also that once the tissue develops it's surgery time (I also have experience down that road)

The second quote is actually from pump, I looked at quite a few of his posts, he seems to be very wise on the subject.

I guess what I'm getting to is, regardless of the tissue formation (we've made peace with the fact that he's fekked on that) - will one of these protocols stop further development? Or is that down to his hormone levels etc.? (Which is why I was wondering whether it's worth having him run PCT3)

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01 Oct 2014 18:54 #175577 by Rhino
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By now a year later everything should have stabilized again so I don't see the point of doing as PCT now but he should have bloods done to check his levels anyway before he starts fucking with his hormones again.
Now that he has breast tissue if he gains BF that's where it's going to sit making his Tits look even worse. The best thing he can do is get lean that way he won't be as prone to estrogen sides as much.

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01 Oct 2014 18:56 #175578 by l1qu1d
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Nice one, thanks bud.
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01 Oct 2014 19:50 #175580 by Chem1
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Rhino wrote: If he's already developed some breast tissue and taking the time into account his only option is surgery. Letro may reduce it slightly while he's using it but as soon as he stops it'll be back. Go and have a look at some of 00pumps threads he studied and tried everything when is comes to Gyno and he ended up having multiple surgeries.
The only time letro works is if you catch it early(I mean within a couple of days) not months and that will only reduce the size of the lump but as for breast tissue not a snowballs chance in Hell.


Are there any tell-tell signs that someone has developed actual breast tissue as opposed to standard gyno that AI/Nolva can fix?

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01 Oct 2014 19:53 #175581 by l1qu1d
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You can feel it under your nipple, usually a lump or a disk-like tissue.
You can check for it like you would do a breast-cancer inspection.
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01 Oct 2014 20:05 #175583 by Rhino
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If you catch it very quickly while on cycle Letro/Nolva can still work but if it's gone unchecked and lump has stuck around post cycle you will have formed breast tissue around the lump and your Fucked. Like I said Letro at very high uncomfortable doses will shrink it but only while your estrogen levels are really low as soon as they get back to normal so will your Moobs.

That why there are so many people on Dbol only Christmas cycles who end up looking like Zulu maidens at the read dance in January :lol:

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01 Oct 2014 20:06 #175584 by l1qu1d
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hahahahahahaha

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05 Oct 2014 10:40 #175706 by 00pump
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Put your arm up and hand behind your head, is the area flat or a noticeable lump?

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22 Jun 2015 21:28 #187091 by Tremere
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Sorry to wake up this thread. My friend started gyming with me for the first time ever. He is very skinny. After about 3 months his nipples is sensitive and it almost feels like there is R5 coin underneath each nipple. No steroids. Just lots of food. My question is that can this be because he never lifted weights before so his hormones are doing something 'new'? Or what do you think?

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22 Jun 2015 21:31 #187092 by Oupa
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Tremere wrote: Sorry to wake up this thread. My friend started gyming with me for the first time ever. He is very skinny. After about 3 months his nipples is sensitive and it almost feels like there is R5 coin underneath each nipple. No steroids. Just lots of food. My question is that can this be because he never lifted weights before so his hormones are doing something 'new'? Or what do you think?


It happens when you become a man B)








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Whats his age?

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23 Jun 2015 04:42 #187094 by Tremere
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Lol. He is 34

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09 Feb 2016 13:24 #196356 by Demolish
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Brining up an old thread here, sorry.

Busy with PCT, on day 8 of 50mg Clomid. My right nipple is kinda sensitive and a little red. I was on a basic test Cyp cycle for 13 weeks @ 500mg a week and used nolva throughout.

Now i did do the warrior race this weekend so it might be some battle scars or it might not be. Do you guys think i should get some Letro or something just in case?

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09 Feb 2016 13:52 #196357 by 00pump
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Clomid can cause that, switch to Nolva.. what does your whole PCT look like.

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09 Feb 2016 13:55 #196359 by Demolish
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was wondering if the clomid can cause it. I have x30 LP Nolva that I was supposed to start after the 15 days Clomid

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09 Feb 2016 15:11 #196361 by 00pump
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Cut it short, move to Nolva.

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09 Feb 2016 15:37 #196362 by Demolish
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Wil do thanks Pump!

Still for 30days or longer?

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09 Feb 2016 16:36 #196363 by 00pump
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30 to 60 days. The older you are I'd recommend longer if you se wanting kids and not looking to cycle any time soon. If it's just for a break then 30 days is fine.

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09 Feb 2016 16:41 #196364 by Demolish
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Cool i will do that thanks for the help

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10 Feb 2016 16:13 #196383 by Demolish
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@Pump

i forgot I also have Estro Strike from Assault labs.
it contains 4-hydroxyandrost-4-ene-3 17-dione AKA Formestane; Androsta-3 5-diene-7 17-dione AKA Arimistane and N-Acetyl-Cysteine. Do you think it will help if i run this along side the Nolva?

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10 Feb 2016 19:23 #196386 by 00pump
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Don't know it so I can't advise

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10 Feb 2016 19:25 #196387 by Demolish
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Oh ok cool thanks anyway

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