Advice

Gentleman,

I'm 31 yrs, and a newbie to this site

weight = 84.5kgs,

BMI = no idea, don't have that facility at my gym but I wear a 32 pants.

I have been training for abt 2.5 yrs, I have been stuck on a plateau now for abt 6 months, gains are very small compared to the initial 2 years of training. I started at 75 kgs. My diet has been relatively good from the start as I have seen gains and now not so much, still on the same diet. I have tried different techniques and still attempting and willing to learn new techniques of training to shock the muscle.

I'm deciding to go on a course but due to availability it's as follows :

- Test E 250mg x 4no vials.
- Deca 100mg x 4no vials.
- Dbol 10mg x 100no.

PCT :

- 30 x 20mg Nolvadex tabs
- 15 x 50mg Clomid tabs

How do I dose considering my amount is smaller than the sample cycles on the website, still waiting on the pregnyl availability ?

Thank guys very much for the info ..... really appreciate it

Hi Wolverine.

Before considering steroids, post your current training routine and diet (add the amounts of food as well)

Decca is a no no for 1st time users (it's a complicated compound and shuts you down quite bad)
And that pct is not fit for decca anyways, you need hcg and you need cabaser on hand.

I'm guessing your diet is the problem, but if you're set on doing a cycle go with the beginner bulk.
But I would recommend you still post that diet and training, maybe you can start a proper bulking cycle with an upgraded diet!!

You've got Test E and dbol so just follow the beginner bulking cycle on the site with what you have and you'll grow like a weed.
Like Trarex said leave the Deca for now, you want to see how you'll react to test first before unnessassarily adding other compounds and complicating things.

Trarex,

thanks dude,

Every morning 250g sachet jungle oats and followed by my whey shake
Monday breakfast - 1 x piece chicken breast with some whole wheat bread
- Lunch - chicken breast again x 2 pieces - whey again
- whey pre gym with a pre work out
- post gym - whey, followed with chicken pasta with broccoli (taste horrible - so small amount)

Tuesday - breakfast - hake grilled - 1 pieces - followed whey
- lunch 2 pieces hake - followed by whey
- whey pre gym with a pre work out
- Post gym - whey, followed by fish again and rice

Wednesday - steak similar set up as two above days

Thursday - lamb stew for lunch and supper and similar set up regarding the breakfast and pre gym and post gym as the two above days

Friday - my mrs mixes it up ... varies between fish or chicken again

this diet gets a bit sickening at times so it's followed about 75-90% of the time to the "T"

Training -

Monday - back - bent over rows, lat pull downs, cable rows, pullovers, deadlift, - I try and mix things up here - really enjoy training back
Tuesday - Legs - squats, lunges, leg presses, bent over lying curls, seated curls, standing curls, bent over hamstring dumbbell stretches ( i think it's called that) standing calf raises, seated calf raises, leg press machine calf raises
Wednesday - GUNZ - bicep curls, in out seated, standing, incline bench, tris - flat bench narrow grip barbell press, skull crushes, single overhead dumbbell raises, two handed over head dumbbell raises, triceps machine straight down, overhead, single handed, two handed, over head, reverse grip

Thursday and Friday and alternated with chest and shoulders -

main compound movements exercises with some isolated exercises - LOVE .... late raises and shrugzzzzzzzzzz !!!!!

I LOVE TRAINING .... CANT GET ENUF .... wanna see some serious results now

Thanks Rhino,

The sample cycle dose is for abt 20 weeks,my supply unfortunately is only for 4 weeks

Do you think I will still need HCG considering the time for my cycle ? And, will pregnyl suffice as HCG or do I HAVE to get ovidrel ( sourcing is hard ) ?

Do you think I can drop my quantity for the clomid and Nolvadex ?

Hey bud.

Rather try source some more Test E, as it only really starts getting to work at around the week 6 mark.

With Regards to PCT.
Any use of AAS, should be followed by a complete PCT. As even the smallest about of exogenous testosterone will result in endogenous shut down.

Be patient, source the supply. And do it right

Good luck

Yeah 4 weeks is a waste, especially if you were going to run decca, it only kicks in around week 4 to 5.

Uhm I think you need to brush up your knowledge about steroids and about cycling them.
The beginner bulk is proven for 1st time users, so if you cant source more test maybe your not ready.

Anyways lets get to the diet:

Every morning: Replace the instant oats with normal oats, add whey to it, makes quite a nice breakfast or replace whey with egg whites.

Monday breakfast: Not a big fan of bread, maybe some brown rice..

Lunch: drop the whey your already getting protein from the chicken, add either carbs or some good fats

Pre: Not a fan of pre's but have some oats with the whey, 1-1.5 hours pre gym and then your pre 30-10min pre gym

Post: Whey, you can add dextrose or vitargo, get that protein and carbs in but replace the pasta with either white rice or potato

Tuesday - breakfast: drop the whey, add some carbs or good fats

lunch: dude are you adddicted to whey?? drop it

pre: same as monday

post: same as monday, the fish and rice is perfect

Thursday: stew is not a great choice for a diet, rather keep it like the above structure

I would recommend you read those diet stickies.

You've got quite a lot of homework to do....have fun!

Mason Might and Trarex,

thanks guys ... this thread has been EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE.

I will do more research regarding diet and Juice.

Rookie mistake

So do your research and propose a new diet and cycle, then we'll give you some more advice!

Cool !