PCT 1 or 2 - HCG Q's

Hi guy's

I'm new to this forum, from what i've read so far there a lot of good info on here back by science not bro science compared to most other forums i've checked out.

My stats are: 175cm - 84kg - 6% bf - 28 yrs - training for 10 years on & off due to travelling & injury, but been consistently training now for 2.5 years since my last injury (main reason i started gearing) & not looking back.

Cycle history: April 2014 - 13 weeks Test E only 500mg - HCG 500iu blast ed 10 days during 2 week wait before pct clom/nolva 70/70/30/30 - 40/40/20/20 adex .25 Eod durning cycle (defs not enough) pretty sure everything i did here was wrong .

Not that happy with this cycle's pct as all the reserach & info i got was from other forums that promote waiting 1x half life before starting pct, which after reading everything on here about pct is total BS. I got good gains from this but pretty sure i stuffed up my pct as i got epic back & shoulder acne during pct, it coincided with taking the hcg blast, so i'm assuming this spiked my test & oestrogen which gave me the acne. Any thoughts on what may have done this would appreciated.

Current cycle: started 2nd April 2015 till present, its going to be 9 or 10 weeks - test prop 100mg eod - adex .5 eod, gains are good helped me shred without losing muscle.

PCT for this one isn't confirmed thats why i'm asking you guys for advice, I have clom/nolva & hcg on hand atm. I was going to do pct 2 for good measure.

After reading everything on here i'm a little up in the air about wether i should do pct 2 or 1. As I only just found the info on here about running HCG during cycle from week 4 up until 1 week before pct. I don't think I have the option to throw it in now as i'm currently in week 8.

So my question is should run pct 2 with hcg durning pct? or should i just cut the hcg & only run pct 1. I'm a little scared of the hcg giving me bad acne again during pct.

I got the hcg because i want to make sure i do the best job at recovering from my cycle.

Also should i run adex at .5 eod during my 14 day waiting period up until starting pct or stop after last jab?

Thanks any advice on the subject would be awesome.

Mt advice would be to start the HCG immediately at 500iu per week. Bump that up to 1000iu per week in the bridge period. Then proceed with 14 days of clomid at 50mg ED Followed by Nolvadex at 20mg ED.

You want estrogen low as possible going into PCT but remember adex can cause estrogen rebound so use it, but slowly taper down until complete cessation.

Cheers Mason,

If i decide to not run the hcg, what would your advice be just do pct one?

Also with the adex, are you saying taper of through waiting period before stopping?

For a test only cycle PCT 1 will suffice. Yes I'm saying taper down through the bridge period and stop with PCT

Legend thanks for the advice mate.

Also mate, what are your thoughts on running say 50mg of Var perday as a bridge before pct?

chookmiller wrote: Also mate, what are your thoughts on running say 50mg of Var perday as a bridge before pct?

Perhaps extend that so the Var is run for about 6 weeks. You could perhaps increase the dosage as well depending on how many mg your caps are? I've found 80 to be the sweet spot.

Hey mate, I thought i'd ask but why do you guys recommend running the hcg during cycle?

This contradicts what its says in the pct section for pct 2 saying you run the hcg after the clomid?

If i were to run pct 2 for my test only cycle would this be more effective then pct 1 alone?

We suggest use on cycle because it prevents total shut down and testicular atrophy. This is advantageous when you transition into PCT as it makes it easier for you to recover. There is also reason to believe that HCG interferes with SERMS. So although it can be used as laid out in PCT, there are better ways to do it.

For a test only cycle PCT 1 is sufficient, that said the addition of HCG can only help.

When should your last hcg shot be prior to commencing with pct?