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04 Aug 2015 14:15 #188687 by chrisfranck01
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Hi

I need some advice, I have been on a 12 week cycle, my last stage were, test 450 twice a week, deca 300 twice a week, tren 200 twice a week and prop 100 3 times a week.

I finished my cycle a week back.

when should I start with my post cycle and what would you suggest it look like.

Thanks

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04 Aug 2015 14:29 #188689 by lobo
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Have a look at Doctaris PCT 3 in the PCT section should do the trick.

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04 Aug 2015 14:33 #188690 by soloR
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Hi bud.

Well done on jumping headfirst into a shallow pool. Take it how you want.


Anyway. Use the PCT 3 and take the halflives of your longest ester (deca) into consideration.
I'm guessing you don't have a bridge, or were you bridging with the prop?

I have to ask: You have nothing on hand for PCT? Not even a note with instructions from the big guy at your gym?

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04 Aug 2015 14:34 #188691 by chrisfranck01
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Thank you,

How long must I wait before I start?

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04 Aug 2015 14:36 #188692 by soloR
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Deca is 53 days after your last shot *thumbsuck*

Just double check in the PCT page

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04 Aug 2015 14:39 #188693 by chrisfranck01
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hey man

I do have HCG, clomid, and nolvadex.

just not sure how to work out start date of pct. I am using prop 100 for bridging.

how long is the ester for deca 300?

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04 Aug 2015 14:42 - 04 Aug 2015 14:42 #188694 by soloR
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I take back my sharp reply: Linky to the PCT here

Pick #3

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04 Aug 2015 14:50 #188695 by chrisfranck01
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No problem bud.

I see that deca 300 I must wait 45 days.

so it means I must bridge for this whole period?

must I not take something for estragon build up in the meantime?

nips are sensitive.

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04 Aug 2015 14:55 #188697 by lobo
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Stop the test prop 14 days before you start pct.

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04 Aug 2015 14:56 #188698 by soloR
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Most of us bridge with Winny or Tbol.

Personally my liver doesn't like that. I bridge with Prop 100 1ml EOD and moderate dose of Anavar and Proviron

If you check out one of the sample cycles, there are good examples of bridge schedules.

I'm accustomed to Letrozole for controlling estrogen sides. You can use Adex as well. I think Adex is better as there is no rebound.

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04 Aug 2015 14:58 #188699 by chrisfranck01
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Thank you guys!!

Really appreciate the help.

Cheers :)

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04 Aug 2015 15:29 #188700 by Furk
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Hey mate, for the future: plan your PCT at the same time you plan your cycle. And if cash is short, buy PCT first. Stick to the advise given previously and you'll be fine.

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04 Aug 2015 15:31 #188701 by Oupa
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soloR wrote: I think Adex is better as there is no rebound.


Not true B)
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04 Aug 2015 15:35 #188704 by soloR
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Oupa wrote:

soloR wrote: I think Adex is better as there is no rebound.


Not true B)


I stand corrected. Aromasin.

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05 Aug 2015 15:20 #188738 by IronKobra767
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soloR wrote: Most of us bridge with Winny or Tbol.

Personally my liver doesn't like that. I bridge with Prop 100 1ml EOD and moderate dose of Anavar and Proviron

If you check out one of the sample cycles, there are good examples of bridge schedules.

I'm accustomed to Letrozole for controlling estrogen sides. You can use Adex as well. I think Adex is better as there is no rebound.

soloR, could I ask what you mean by your liver doesn't like that? What indicators do you look out for? I'm running a long tbol (7 weeks) and test cyp (11 weeks) cycle with Winnie as a bridge. Not sure how to evaluate how my liver is coping...

Apologies for hijacking the thread.

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06 Aug 2015 07:17 #188777 by soloR
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Iron K.

Personally my liver values in the bloods have always been on the higher side of normal so I have to do lots more work to return my liver to health. I will actually start feeling pain if I use something as toxic as Winstrol.

Var and Proviron go down like candy though.

If you know your liver can take it, go ahead. But just to judge where you are get bloods before and right after the orals. Liver damage is possible. It really is worse than alcohol if you're not cautious.

It's a personal thing. Always get bloods even off cycle. Know your body.

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06 Aug 2015 09:10 - 06 Aug 2015 09:11 #188780 by IronKobra767
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soloR wrote: Iron K.

Personally my liver values in the bloods have always been on the higher side of normal so I have to do lots more work to return my liver to health. I will actually start feeling pain if I use something as toxic as Winstrol.

Var and Proviron go down like candy though.

If you know your liver can take it, go ahead. But just to judge where you are get bloods before and right after the orals. Liver damage is possible. It really is worse than alcohol if you're not cautious.

It's a personal thing. Always get bloods even off cycle. Know your body.

Thanks soloR.

I've made the mistake of not having bloods done before my cycle. To be honest I was a little nervous to approach my GP because the topic of steroids has come up before with him and he reacted quite badly to it. I'll have to read up more on where / how to get blood work done and what specific tests to request.

I'm two weeks in to using the TBol. Would it make sense to have bloods done now or should I wait until they end before I start on the Winnie bridge.

Iron K.
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06 Aug 2015 10:34 #188784 by Oupiel
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bypass the GP.

Walk into a Lancet facility, fill in the forms, pay the money.
get the results in a day or 2.

Never had even a sideways glance.

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06 Aug 2015 10:37 #188785 by soloR
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Iron K.

Your judgy GP is a drag. Find another one. You need objective information.

If you have no underlying issues with the liver, you can take bloods after the Tbol to see where you are.

Have you posted your cycle on the site? Let me look, maybe its better to get some context on your situation.

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06 Aug 2015 11:09 #188787 by Furk
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Kobra, if you are not constrained to use a certain GP by your medical aid, find one you are completely comfortable with. You won't regret it. Not just for anabolic-steroids related issues, but for health care in general.

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