My first HCG 5000 PCT.

Hi Guys.

I have just finished my first injectable cycle and I just got my PCT. I've only done Nolvedex before but not HCG.

Question: Do I just inject the water into the vial with the powder, mix, and then inject that?

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Follow these steps

1. Withdraw 2ml air into the syringe ( NO WATER )
2. Remove the cap of the HCG
3. Hold onto the plunger and let the vacuumed HCG vial suck in the 2ml air
4. After its balanced out, remove the syringe and withdraw 2ml water into the syringe
5. Now Slowly drip the water inside the hcg vial and let the water mix with the powder.
6. DO NOT SHAKE, store in the fridge. It should be ready in a few hours.

INJECT THE WATER SLOWLY AND AVOID FOAM OR BUBBLES

Thanks bother.

How long do I leave it in the fridge for and why do I put it in the fridge? Also, do I inject all of it on one go?

HCG is a peptide chain and it's physically fragile.
It needs to be stored in the fridge to prevent it from denaturing / degrading.

Always store it in the fridge.

No, don't inject all of it. You only need inject 10 units on an insulin syringe = 250iu hcg
That is a very tiny little bit.

See pic - www.medicore.com/images/SyringeCorePage.png

Ok, so I'll go get an insulin syringe tomorrow and I ONLY need to inject 10 units once. No more?

Oupiel wrote: HCG is a peptide chain and it's physically fragile.
It needs to be stored in the fridge to prevent it from denaturing / degrading.

Always store it in the fridge.

No, don't inject all of it. You only need inject 10 units on an insulin syringe = 250iu hcg
That is a very tiny little bit.

See pic - www.medicore.com/images/SyringeCorePage.png

hammertime123 wrote: Ok, so I'll go get an insulin syringe tomorrow and I ONLY need to inject 10 units once. No more?

twice a week

Oupa wrote:

hammertime123 wrote: Ok, so I'll go get an insulin syringe tomorrow and I ONLY need to inject 10 units once. No more?

twice a week

And how many days apart in the week? and obviously I do this until the HCG is finished?
Sorry for the million questions, just want to do this right.

Mondays & Thursdays is the norm. Older guys 40+ Mon, Wed, Fri i find work best.

Just a suggestion next time start the hcg earlier while you on cycle bud.

Ok great, and lastly, I'll just keep injecting in my outer upper thighs?

lobo wrote: Just a suggestion next time start the hcg earlier while you on cycle bud.

Ok, I was told by my supplier to wait 7 days and then start?

From what I know best to start it in wk4 of your cycle can up the dose a bit in the bridge then stop it 2 or so days before pct. Some say it effects the pct drugs.

Can also shoot it in the stomach

I'd disagree - Start now.

It would have been better if you used the HCG during your cycle.
It would have prevented testicular atrophy and kept them primed to make testosterone.

Now they have been dormant for most of your cycle and the HCG needs to stimulate test production.

I remember one of rich pianas videos he says thats bullshit to use hcg on cycle sending the brain two messages one to shutdown and one to start went on to say he shoots 5000ius at once to get things going again.

Ok flip. It's been 7 days so I'll start tomorrow as soon as I get insulin needles. I only have 23 gauge normal needles and 10ml syringes at home.

Thanks guys, really appreciate the help.

yeah, but if you do as he says and use your brain.... (I saw that vid too)

there is no direct signal to shut down test production.
It's the elevated test levels & estrogen levels (negative feedback) that result in less testicle stimulation via LH.
Hence your balls shrink and go off line.
and they take a while to come back online and grow to their original test production and size.

I'd rather have them primed to kick in sooner into PCT that wait for them to play wakeup & catch up.

Rich knows his oats and his gear, but I believe differently.
my opinion is based on my understanding of the HPTA and the various hormones involved.
HCG doesn't send any messages to the brain. There are no conflicting signals aside from high test levels & estrogen.

But many ways to skin a cat.

lobo wrote: I remember one of rich pianas videos he says thats bullshit to use hcg on cycle sending the brain two messages one to shutdown and one to start went on to say he shoots 5000ius at once to get things going again.

Gonna interject here. Rich Paina has a lot of weird ideas and skewed logic, I'm not saying he's wrong on all counts. He is a mass of a man, but he's been in the game long and he didn't have to compete for long periods, so he didn't have to hope. Guy's basically been on 1 cycle his whole life and did a lol of gear. Just don't take all his videos too seriously. And allays, question everything you see on the Internet.

Hijack over and I agree with Oup**l on thus one. Even on TRT, guys with best results use test and HCG *simultaneously*.

Oupa wrote: Mondays & Thursdays is the norm. Older guys 40+ Mon, Wed, Fri i find work best.

Oupa would this still be the case if you're injecting test cyp every 4 days as opposed to a set twice a week schedule? I pin my test every 4 days so it's not on set days every week. I plan to start hcg in two weeks and was going to space my hcg pin evenly around my test. I.e. day 1 - test, day 3 - hcg, day 5 - test, day 7 - hcg, etc. So essentially one pin every two days alternating between the two.

Do you agree with this?

IronKobra767 wrote:

Oupa wrote: Mondays & Thursdays is the norm. Older guys 40+ Mon, Wed, Fri i find work best.

Oupa would this still be the case if you're injecting test cyp every 4 days as opposed to a set twice a week schedule? I pin my test every 4 days so it's not on set days every week. I plan to start hcg in two weeks and was going to space my hcg pin evenly around my test. I.e. day 1 - test, day 3 - hcg, day 5 - test, day 7 - hcg, etc. So essentially one pin every two days alternating between the two.

Do you agree with this?

Yes. That is perfect.

I got the insulin needles, I mixed it, and shot 10 units into my tummy area and the HCG is in the fridge.

THANKS GUYS!