Project mass - for my testicles

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11 Jan 2016 13:11 #194818 by Novice!
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So this past year I ran two cycles including 19 nor's and my balls have taken a knock, I did my pct for the previous cycle but admittedly my off time was too short.

This PCT I want to regain their size and production :)

Will be following PCT 3 to the T and perhaps a second time if need be but will get bloods done afterwards.

I have been taking cabaser during my bridge of prop and mast so there shouldn't be any progesterone floating around.

Can anyone recommend any supplements besides the usual vits to help boost production during the PCT phase as well as keep me sane? :lol:

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11 Jan 2016 15:32 #194829 by Lex
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DAA and Humanforte if u can find it

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11 Jan 2016 15:52 #194830 by big daddy 08
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tribulus and some zinc;)

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11 Jan 2016 20:28 #194838 by 00pump
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Staminogro and longifolia jack as per the doc, he doesn't recommend any other 'natural' supplements. He did advise that I use Nolva for 3 months.

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12 Jan 2016 09:30 #194857 by Novice!
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Perfect thanks a lot guys!

Was thinking of adding some peptides as well seeing as they dont effect testosterone levels and will hopefully help in maintaining some gains!

Will keep this thread open

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08 Feb 2016 09:08 - 08 Feb 2016 09:08 #196286 by Novice!
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Hey guys,

So PCT hasnt been too bad considering mood and training, although I feel I'm not recovering 100%.
My testes are 'hanging' but they definitely not as full.

Im currently in my last week of HCG eod, nolva and aromasin and taking Supps SA testoblast, Zinc, Vit D3 and Staminogro.

From what I've read online, if your testes dont get larger, it implies they havent responded to the HCG treatment so either I must redo it or 00pump from the docs advise shall I go onto another nolva or get bloods done to see where everything is at?

And if so what shall be tested? Free t, shbg, LH, FSH, E2, prolactin and thyroid?

Thanks for the help!
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08 Feb 2016 11:18 #196294 by 00pump
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If they have dropped I would just continue Nolva for another month to 3 and include staminogro and longifolia jack. Don't use more hCG

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08 Feb 2016 11:23 #196295 by Novice!
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Thanks 00pump will do so.

continuing with 20mg Nolva ed?

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08 Feb 2016 12:56 #196300 by Rooi Bul 86
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You can run Aromasin with the Nolvadex

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09 Feb 2016 07:52 #196345 by 00pump
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I wouldn't, you don't need to be messing with estrogen now unless you have a reason too.. keep it simple so it's easier to advise going forward, add to many compounds and then you could experience a number of side effects and the guessing game comes in.

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09 Feb 2016 09:47 #196347 by Novice!
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Thanks Pump thats what I was thinking as well.

Sticking to 20mg nolva p/d day
4 caps Supps sa testoblast extreme (only product I could find with decent mg of longifolia)
2000iu D3

Will report back in a few weeks.

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29 Aug 2016 20:23 - 29 Aug 2016 20:34 #203006 by Th@nks-a-ml
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Hay Novice. How are you? Did that project mass turn out ok for you?

What worked and what did not work?

Strange there was not more information in this thread. Recovery from testicular atrophy and the details pertaining to it, weather naturally or synthetically should be a main focus on this site. For guys young and old using gear this would be a top concern and a top priority.

After many years researching supplement companies and spending well over 150k over the last 10 years or so, natural testosterone boosters was a pet project of mine. It really is weird. It almost became a pet peev of mine. So many companies with so many promises. Just as many disappointed customers throwing their hard earned cash away on BS marketing and false claims.

I cannot possibly run through 15 years trials and tribulations, hits and misses.

So I will cut to the chase.

Awhile ago there was a company called primordial performance. There story was very interesting. The FDA shut them down. Long story. They did a range of DHEA products that were mind blowing. There natural pct research was second to none.

Now fast forward to 2016 and there is a company based in AUS that carried on the research and modified certain products with their own flavour.

What I have found really interesting about this natural test booster saga, is that, the best companies in the world ( the ones who have real clinical natural test booster results) that I have come across have their formulators and roots in the steroid world. Read that again if it never sank in.

The company which I believe is leading the way in the natural test booster and natural pct product range can be found at www.wickedsupplements.com/

This range was designed buy steroid users for steroid uses. It was designed around finding a more natural pct option that is not so harsh vs synthetics. The spin off is, they have I believe, one of the best natural test product ranges in the world.

They have blood work of actual clients. That is huge for a natural test boost company.

This company has had me so hot and bothered I have been contemplating a exclusivity agreement which should indicate after 15 years of research and 10s of thousands of rands investment they have a good thing going.
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29 Aug 2016 20:56 - 29 Aug 2016 21:14 #203007 by Th@nks-a-ml
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For those interested here we go:

RES100 LIQUID
Blocks estrogen and boosts testosterone
Increases libido and supports fertility
Natural AI (Aromatase Inhibitor)
Enhances blood flow to the penis for harder erections
Increases sexual sensitivity
SEDDS (Self-emulsifying drug delivery system)

What is Res100 Liquid ?
Res100 Liquid is a natural formula designed to help stimulate the body’s own production of testosterone for anabolic growth and maximum sexual performance — Delivered with a pharmaceutical delivery system known asSEDDS (Self-emulsifying drug delivery system).
Res100 Liquid will support male vitality, libido, and erectile function. By triggering blood flow to the penis, increasing testosterone production, and increasing confidence with anti anxiety effects, Res100 Liquid is a safe and legal formula to help support male testosterone and libido.
Res100 Liquid does not contain any pro hormones or steroidal ingredients, therefore it can also be used in post cycle therapy (PCT) for steroids and pro hormone products to maximize testosterone production after a cycle.
How exactly does Res100 Liquid increase Testosterone?
To understand how Res100 increases Testosterone it’s important to understand the Hypothalamus-Pituitary-Testicular-Axis (HPTA).
In a normal healthy male, luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) are sent from the pituitary to stimulate the testes to make testosterone and sperm.
The release of LH & FSH from the pituitary is stimulated by Gonadotropin Releasing Hormone (GnRH) from the hypothalamus. The hypothalamus is stimulated to produce GnRH when it senses low levels of steroid hormones, such as testosterone and estrogen. (hypothalamus [GnRH] — > pituitary [LH & FSH]— > testes [testosterone])
On the other hand, when the brain detects high levels of steroid hormones such as testosterone it suppresses the release of GnRH, LH & FSH, and eventually testosterone production. This is called the negative feedback loop – the normal daily rhythm of hormone production.
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Res100 increases GnRH release by preventing the negative feedback of steroid hormones on the hypothalamus through GABAergic modulation and estrogen blockage*.
In other words, Res100 offsets the suppression of steroid hormones in the brain, allowing the body to produce more testosterone than it normally would, by up-regulating GnRH and LH & FSH. More testosterone means more strength, muscle growth, alpha male confidence and sexual prowess.
* Remember, maintaining normal levels of estrogen is an important part of maintaining libido, muscle recovery, and testicular function. Therefore, it is undesirable to overly suppress estrogen levels. The natural anti-estrogens in Res100 gently balances and controls estrogen levels, without overly suppressing them, this is why res100 works so well.
What sort of results should I expect?
Within several days of beginning Res100 Liquid, the following results become noticeable –
Improved libido
More frequent & harder erections
Increased ejaculatory volume
Improved sense of well-being & social confidence
What are the ingredients and how do they work?
Resveratrol (99% ultra-pure trans-resveratrol) Aside from the noteworthy benefits for the heart, resveratrol is an ‘estrogen blocker’ because of its unique chemical structure which binds to the estrogen receptor, thus inhibiting estrogenic activity. (1,2) As discussed before, blocking estrogen can help increase LH & FSH levels, which in turn stimulates testosterone production. Several studies have shown resveratrol to be a potent stimulator of testosterone production, fertility and erection frequency. (3-4) The mechanism for increasing testosterone and fertility was linked to the estrogen blocking action, as well as the vasodilatory effect of resveratrol on erectile tissue in the penis, thus stimulating increased sexual activity. (4,9)
7,8 Benzoflavone This neuro-active flavone has the ability to pass the blood brain barrier and block the suppression of GnRH release through modulation of the GABAergic receptor complex. (6,7,21-23) 7,8 benzoflavone also has positive effects on libido due to its aphrodisiac and anti anxiety (anxiety-relieving) effects. (10-13) By having natural anti anxiety properties, 7,8-benzoflavone my help improve general self confidence and well being. Other research has shown 7,8 Benzoflavone enhances the body’s clearance of estrogenic hormones by inducing 2-hydroxylation of these hormones. (24,25)
Why is Res100 in Liquid form?
306x155-SEDDS-logoMany dietary ingredients have a poor absorption rate, we solved this problem by creating a pharmaceutical delivery system known as SEDDS (Self emulsifying drug delivery system). SEDDS increases absorption and delivery of poorly soluble ingredients by 200% to 500% and highly soluble ingredients 1000% to 1500%. For a highly detailed description of how SEDDS works please click here: SEDDS (Self emulsifying drug delivery system)

Better sex by boosting testosterone, sex drive, and enhancing erections
couple (Duplicate) Enjoy confidence and a dominant ”sexual prowess” using Res100.
Res100 is an amazing product that will help you recover during your post cycle therapy (PCT). It is highly effective during a hormonal recovery phase and will help treat many of the undesirable “PCT Blues”, such as, depression,loss of motivation, and lowered sex drive.
Res100 has been documented to not only possess AI (Aromatase Inhibitor) properties but also selective estrogen receptor modulation (SERM) properties due to trans-resveratrol”s phyto-estrogen makeup. It can act as estrogen in E2 receptor sites in place of estrogen itself when estrogen levels need modulation or is can block estrogen at the aromatase.
This could be compared to what the prescription drug Nolvadex does. This ”serm-like” property has the propensity to up-regulate GnRH and LH & FSHfor increased testosterone levels. (2,4,5)
Can Res100 Liquid be used for PCT?
Yes, Res100 Liquid can successfully be used as a part of PCT for re-starting testosterone production after a suppressive cycle. For maximum effectiveness, we recommend stacking Res100 with TocoCaps for enhancing testicular sensitivity and intensifying testosterone production. For the maximum amplification of testosterone production, we recommend a stack of Res100, TocoCaps, TransSynergy DAA and Endocrine Amplifier included in the Ultimate Stack.
Are there any side-effects?
When used as recommended, Res100 Liquid is completely safe and side effect free.

Recommended Use:
Each Container of Res100 contains 60 serves.
As a dietary supplement take Res100, 2 times daily.
Hold in the mouth for 1-2 minutes before swallowing to increase absorption take on an empty stomach.
Dosage:
As estrogen levels can vary some individuals may require a higher dose, whereas others require a lesser dose to achieve the same results.
Minimum dose is 4mls 1 x daily
Normal dose is 4mls 2x daily
Maximum dose is 8mls 2 x daily
Store in a dry cool place away from light, do not refrigerate.
Cycling on/off periods:
1 month on 10 days off
3 months on 10 days off (however you may become use to the product during this time)
5 days on 2 days off for long term use (unlikely you will become use to the product)
WARNING: SEDDS may enhance the delivery of other supplements and/or medications. Therefore, it is important to consult your practitioner prior to consuming prescription medication or supplements in conjunction with SEDDS.

They have legit References to:
1. Resveratrol in Cardioprotection: A Therapeutic Promise of Alternative Medicine Dipak K. Das et al. Mol. Interv., Feb 2006; 6: 36 – 47.
2. The Red Wine Polyphenol Resveratrol Displays Bilevel Inhibition on Aromatase in Breast Cancer Cells Yun Wang, et al. Toxicol. Sci., Jul 2006; 92: 71 – 77.
3. trans-Resveratrol, a Natural Antioxidant from Grapes, Increases Sperm Output in Healthy Rats M. Emília Juan, et al. J. Nutr., Apr 2005; 135: 757 – 760
4. trans-Resveratrol relaxes the corpus cavernosum ex vivo and enhances testosterone levels and sperm quality in vivo. S Shin, et al. Arch Pharm Res, Jan 2008; 31(1): 83-7.
5. Inhibition of human estrogen synthetase (aromatase) by flavones JT Kellis, Jr et al. Science, Sep 1984; 225: 1032 – 1034.
6. Drug/substance reversal effects of a novel trisubstituted benzoflavone moiety (BZF) isolated from Passiflora incarnata Linn. —a brief perspective KAMALDEEP DHAWAN et al. Addiction Biology (December 2003) 8, 379 – 386
7. Prevention of chronic alcohol and nicotine-induced azospermia, sterility and decreased libido, by a novel tri-substituted benzoflavone moiety from Passiflora incarnata Linneaus in healthy male rats. K Dhawan and et al. Life Sci, Nov 2002; 71(26): 3059-69.
8. Molecular basis of the inhibition of human aromatase (estrogen synthetase) by flavone and isoflavone phytoestrogens: A site-directed mutagenesis study. Kao YC, et al. Environ Health Perspect 1998;106:85-92
9. Vasorelaxant and antioxidant activity of flavonols and flavones: structure-activity relationships. OL Woodman, WF Meeker, and M Boujaoude J Cardiovasc Pharmacol, Sep 2005; 46(3): 302-9.
10. Die Bedeutung der Passionsblume in der Heilkunde. Lutomski J et al. Pharmazie in unserer Zeit 1981;10:45-49.
11. The Honest Herbal: A Sensible Guide to the Use of Herbs and Related Remedies. Tyler VE et al. Pharmaceutical Products Press, New York, 1993.
12. Aphrodisiac activity of methanol extract of leaves of Passiflora incarnata Linn in mice. K Dhawan, et al. Phytother Res, Apr 2003; 17(4): 401-3.
13. Preoperative Oral Passiflora Incarnata Reduces Anxiety in Ambulatory Surgery Patients: A Double-Blind, Placebo-Controlled Study Ali Movafegh, et al. Anesth. Analg., Jun 2008; 106: 1728 – 1732.
14. Essential oils are novel human skin penetration enhancers. Williams A, et al. Int J Pharmaceuticals 57:R7–R9, 1989
15. Allyl-containing sulfides in garlic increase uncoupling protein content in brown adipose tissue, and noradrenaline and adrenaline secretion in rats. Oi, Y. et al J. Nutr. 129: 336–342. (1999)
16. Garlic Supplementation Increases Testicular Testosterone and Decreases Plasma Corticosterone in Rats Fed a High Protein Diet Yuriko Oi, et al. J. Nutr., Aug 2001; 131: 2150 – 2156.
17. Corticosterone Can Act at the Posterior Paraventricular Thalamus to Inhibit Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Adrenal Activity in Animals that Habituate to Repeated Stress Azra Jaferi et al. Endocrinology, Oct 2006; 147: 4917 – 4930
18. Study of the effect of sclareol glycol diterpene on the release of adenohypophysial hormones prolactin, somatotropin and adenocorticotrophic hormone Georgieva et al. Eksp Med Morfol. 1989;28(3):7-14. Bulgarian.
19. Study of the effect of sclareol glycol diterpene on the 3′,5′-AMP level Georgieva et al. Eksp Med Morfol. 1989;28(3):1-7. Bulgarian.
20. Understanding True Aromatherapy: Understanding Essential Oils Eileen D, et al. Home Health Care Management Practice, Oct 2004; 16: 474 – 479.
21. Neuroactive flavonoids interacting with GABAA receptor complex. F Wang, M Shing, Y Huen, SY Tsang, and H Xue Curr Drug Targets CNS Neurol Disord, Oct 2005; 4(5): 575-85.
22. Passiflora: a review update. Dhawan K, Dhawan S, Sharma A. J Ethnopharmacol. 2004 Sep;94(1):1-23. Review.
23. A gamma-aminobutyric acidB agonist reverses the negative feedback effect of testosterone on gonadotropin-releasing hormone and luteinizing hormone secretion in the male sheep. Endocrinology. 2000 Nov;141(11):3940-5.
24. Modulation of rabbit and human hepatic cytochrome P-450-catalyzed steroid hydroxylations by alpha-naphthoflavone GE Schwab, JL Raucy and EF Johnson Volume 33, Issue 5, pp. 493-499, 05/01/1988
25. Regioselective 2-hydroxylation of 17beta-estradiol by rat cytochrome P4501B1. M Rahman, C Hayes Sutter, GL Emmert, and TR Sutter Toxicol Appl Pharmacol, November 1, 2006; 216(3): 469-78.


Vitamin E has come up in my years of research as one that should be looked at a lot closer buy us athletes. That primordial performance place had leading research on it. Lucky this place has almost identical suppliers and sources of the 8 isomers recipe.

TOCOCAPS
Complete vitamin E supplement contains all 8 isomers
Increases LH and HCG potency and absorption
Increases testosterone production
Promote hair growth and prevents hair loss
Clears plaque from artery walls for cardiovascular health
Raises HDL while reducing LDL cholesterol
TOCOCAPS – Our Patented Hair Growth Formula That Boosts Your Testosterone Levels and Stops Hair Loss Fast
TocoCaps is an all-natural supplement extracted from Palm Fruit that prevents hair loss whilst promoting hair regrowth. The superior vitamin E formula has been clinically proven to stimulate hair re-growth, optimise and stimulate testosterone production, as well as support a healthy cardiovascular system.

Do you want a head like Russel Brand?
Ok, well maybe not the face and teeth… but the hair? A strong, unashamed, full head of hair?
Use TocoCaps to stop hair loss in its tracks and stimulate hair regrowth instantly. You’ll start to look your sharpest, your confidence will skyrocket, and you’ll actually feel proud of your hair once again.

The TocoCaps formula has been patented (5) for its benefits in preventing hair loss, clinically proven to prevent hair loss and increase hair regrowth by 42% after only 8 months of supplementation (6,7).
The specific tocotrienol : tocopherol ratio promotes hair regrowth especially well in individuals diagnosed with alopecia (hair loss or baldness).
Because Toco’s are fat-soluble they simply pass through cell membranes to be easily absorbed by your body, as opposed to synthetic alpha-tocopherol which is not readily absorbed or utilised (8).
A clear link between Hair Loss and Heart Disease
Over an 11 year study of 22,071 males researchers have found a clear link between hair loss and heart disease. They proposed that much of today’s hair loss is early signs of heart disease. Since the capillaries and arteries in the very small area between the skull and the scalp are so small they are one of the first areas to be effected by heart disease. Since Tocotrienols/Tocopherols attach to cholesterol and work through the cardiovascular system and have the ability to remove plaque and soften arteries this has been shown as one of the best ways to treat hair loss. And restart the flow of blood and nutrients to the scalp. (22)
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Lastly I have seen two natural products been recommended on this site for test boosting and testicular atrophy. I agree with both suggestions but would like to propose possibly the two most effective versions of them.

D-Aspartic Acid (DAA) but not your run of the mill.
TRANSSYNERGY DAA
Advanced D Aspartic Acid Formula
75 times more water soluble than regular DAA
Activates NMDA Receptor
Increase Testosterone & Growth Hormone
Converts Cholesterol to Testosterone

TransSynergy DAA is by far the most advanced formula of DAA you will ever use!
Regular D-Aspartic Acid (DAA) leaves a chalky taste in your mouth, it does this because it doesn’t dissolve very well.
TransSynergy DAA totally changes this. One of the most important things is that it no longer tastes like chalk and it dissolves completely in water. Gram for gram it is 75 times more water soluble than regular DAA, through a simple change to the amino acid with the addition of calcium chelate.
TransSynergyDAAstructure
Now that it can completely dissolve in water it should absorb to a greater degree in the body. We can now put it to work with the addition of another amino acid Sarcosine. D-Aspartic Acid Calcium Chelate and Sarcosine combined has a synergistic effect like you never thought possible.
Here is how it works:
DAA enters your system making its way to what are known as NMDA receptors in the hypothalamus, which regulate the release of hormones such as Testosterone and Growth Hormone. These NMDA receptors require activation by two ligands (a ligand is like a “key” to the receptor).
In the hypothalamus the first ligand for the NMDA receptor is D-Aspartic Acid. The second ligand is the amino acid glycine. DAA and glycine have specific binding sites on the NMDA receptor. These sites are known as the NMDA binding site and the glycine binding site. Think of it this way – just like firing a nuclear missile requires two soldiers to turn two separate keys at the same time, so does the NMDA receptor, which requires binding to both ligands to initiate its influence on the firing of a neuronal signal.
Here is where you say “why not consume glycine with my DAA and make this happen?”
Well science has shown that this won’t work because of a reuptake regulator known as Glycine Transporter 1.
The amino acid Sarcosine however is able to bind to the glycine binding site of NMDA receptors. It binds with a higher affinity than glycine. So it replaces glycine from the process and totally solves the glycine co-activation issue of the NMDA receptor.
Now the NMDA receptor is active a higher production of hormones will be stimulated from the hypothalamus you will have an increase in:
GHRH (Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone) leading to increased Growth Hormone levels
GNRH (Gonadotropin Releasing Hormone) leading to and increase in pituitary stimulation
Pituitary > LH (Luteinizing hormone) FSH (Follicle-stimulating hormone) which increase the production of >
Testosterone creation and Sperm
It doesn’t even stop there!
After TransSynergy DAA has increased the production of testosterone from the NMDA receptor it is again involved within the testes. TransSynergy DAA directly up-regulates another important factor in testosterone creation cholesterol transfer. (3-4)
You see the cells within the testes known as leydig cells once they have been stimulated by LH to produce testosterone the cell then recruits cholesterol into the mitochondria of the cell to then convert that cholesterol into testosterone the transportation of this cholesterol is completed by a protein known as sTAR.
DAA Increases Mitochondrial sTAR by 90%
Incubation of testicular cells with DAA has shown to directly increase sTAR protein levels by 90% within the mitochondria. Researchers propose this is a result of DAA enhancing sTAR mRNA levels, thus enhancing replication of the sTAR protein. (4)
DAA is one of the only amino acids known to significantly increase the level of cholesterol transport protein (sTAR) within the mitochondria. (1-4)
The process of DAA, sTAR and testosterone conversion looks like this:
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DAA increases production of sTAR in the cell mitochondria
sTAR pulls cholesterol into the mitochondria of the cell
Once in the mitochondria, cholesterol begins converting into testosterone.
With higher amounts of sTAR in the mitochondria, more cholesterol will be transported into the mitochondria for processing into testosterone. This will increase the testosterone production in response to stimulus. (3-5)
In other words, by increasing sTAR, DAA will result in
Higher testosterone output from the body’s natural LH stimulus (1, 3, 6)
Higher testosterone output from exogenous hCG stimulus (3)
Post Cycle Therapy? You bet
DAA can dramatically improve recovery of natural Test levels and will have synergistic effects when combined with Res100.
In fact, TransSynergy DAA is going to become an addition to The Ultimate Stack, since it plays such an important role in testosterone production.

Lastly ZMA and they even have a cycle protection formula.

Check both out:
www.wickedsupplements.com/cycle-guard/
www.wickedsupplements.com/zma/

Very cool place with some cutting natural aids to help support the awesome synthetic protocols these knowledgeable and legendary mods provide.

Hope someone enjoys the effort put forth.

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30 Aug 2016 11:28 #203020 by Demolish
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Nice posts @Thanks-a-mil , you seem to be very knowledgeable B)

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30 Aug 2016 12:26 - 30 Aug 2016 12:28 #203023 by Th@nks-a-ml
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@Demolish. Thanks man.

Glad to contribute.

Very few of the so called natural supplement companies have anything worthwhile. Most people including myself have been suckered into parting with our hard earned cash.

As stated above I have thrown copious amounts of cash over a long period of time at many products.

There is nothing magical about their formula's or ingredients. It is the way they use purified raw materials combined with medical absorption technology that seem to make the difference.

The whole point of me pointing this companies products are:

They made for Steroid user buy Steroid users.
They can be used together with synthetic pct courses.
They can be used alone in a more holistic way as a means of maintaining hormonal health for those young guys not ready to plunge into full blown AAS usage.

There is cycle protection and endocrine support to in their range

Very rare to find a supplement company that blends in with so many of this sites directives in such a synergistic way.

It is not cheap.

Some things in life of priceless ...
For everything else there is Mastercard.

Glad you enjoyed.
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27 Oct 2016 09:48 #204981 by Vanman
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Pump,

Where can one buy Longfolia Jack?

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27 Oct 2016 14:07 #204982 by Rooi Bul 86
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Also known as Tongat Ali.
Or Long Jack. Or Eurycoma Longifolia.
Look for a good quality product containing it. Good Test boosters do.

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27 Oct 2016 14:21 #204983 by Muscleaddict
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A lot of sex drive boosters and aphrodisiacs have longfolia jack in them. I saw one at Clicks on the shelf but can't remember what it was called. Or try your nearest Adult World.
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