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29 Mar 2016 20:35 #197611 by pocketmuscle
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Hi gents,

I have a question regarding HCG usage and mixing:

I have a box which contains 1x HCG 5000 IU vial and 1x 1ml Sodium Chloride ampule
As I understand one needs to take 250 IU twice per week.
My question; instead of taking it twice per week, can I take 500IU with one injection per week?

If so, how would I go about mixing it?

Thanks.

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29 Mar 2016 20:44 #197612 by Oupa
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Oupa wrote: Follow these steps

1. Withdraw 2ml air into the syringe ( NO WATER )
2. Remove the cap of the HCG
3. Hold onto the plunger and let the vacuumed HCG vial suck in the 2ml air
4. After its balanced out, remove the syringe and withdraw 2ml water into the syringe
5. Now Slowly drip the water inside the hcg vial and let the water mix with the powder.
6. DO NOT SHAKE, store in the fridge. It should be ready in a few hours.

INJECT THE WATER SLOWLY AND AVOID FOAM OR BUBBLES

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29 Mar 2016 22:33 #197614 by Pyroclasm
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Mix the same but draw twice the amount? :huh:

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30 Mar 2016 07:44 #197617 by pocketmuscle
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I saw the info that Oupa wrote. But I still want to know, am I able to use only 1ml of water or do I have to use 2ml as stated by Oupa?

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30 Mar 2016 09:00 #197619 by MDMA
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zaber007 wrote: I saw the info that Oupa wrote. But I still want to know, am I able to use only 1ml of water or do I have to use 2ml as stated by Oupa?


Calculating hCG:

"There isn't a specific ratio of ml to IU. It depends on how you mix it. It's quite simple. If you dillute 5,000 IUs hCG with 5ml of bacwater, the end result is 1,000 IUs per ml. Divide the same 5,000 IUs with 10 ml and the end result is 500 IUs per ml. Therefore, a large part depends on the concentration of hCG per ampoule or vial."

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30 Mar 2016 09:52 #197620 by OPTRON
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Zaber, you have 5000iu in powder and 1ml water. Mix them, then you have 5000iu in 1ml water. As you mentioned, you want to inject 500iu once per week.

Thus: 5000iu = 1ml, then 500iu = 0.1ml. Thus you inject 0.1ml once per week for a 500iu shot.

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30 Mar 2016 12:15 - 30 Mar 2016 12:18 #197624 by pocketmuscle
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That is actually what I wanted to make sure, if whether I can take a single 500iu shot per week, instead of 2x 250iu shots per week?

Will this be okay when doing a single 500iu shot per week?
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30 Mar 2016 15:29 #197628 by OPTRON
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Zaber, depends on when you planning on taking it. Are you going to use it during cycle or in your PCT? If you going to use it in PCT, have a look at PCT samples where the norm is to use 500iu eod. Use during cycle, the ideal is 250iu 2 x per week. But in your case where you have only 1ml water, 500iu once a week will probably be easier otherwise you gonna have to use 0.05ml for the 250iu shot and probably going to have to make use of 0.5ml insulin syringes. So to keep it simple, stick with 500iu a week during cycle.

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21 Apr 2016 16:49 - 21 Apr 2016 17:00 #198332 by tramacet
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Moved to my thread
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21 May 2016 11:30 #199327 by Jono77
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Hi guys,if I reconstitute the HCG in bacteriostatic water how long can I keep it? And if I freeze it will that extend the life until the day I use it?

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21 May 2016 15:50 #199330 by Killa
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Question, im not sure about. is 2 x 10MCG's 500iu ?

Trying to get a table converter but could not find. Just want to make sure almost in my PTC phase.

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21 May 2016 16:07 #199331 by Eidolon
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Jono77 wrote: Hi guys,if I reconstitute the HCG in bacteriostatic water how long can I keep it? And if I freeze it will that extend the life until the day I use it?


It's easier to keep it in powder form until you need it.

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21 May 2016 16:21 #199333 by Eidolon
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Killa wrote: Question, im not sure about. is 2 x 10MCG's 500iu ?

Trying to get a table converter but could not find. Just want to make sure almost in my PTC phase.


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iu is just a unit of measurement, like ml. People seem to struggle to understand that the volume your require depends on the concentration of the substance you've reconstituted with bac/sterile water.

On a slin pin, 100iu = 1ml. However, that doesn't mean you need to pin 5x slin pins to get 500iu of whatever you're after to get 2x10MCG, Killa :)

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21 May 2016 17:34 - 21 May 2016 17:36 #199334 by Jono77
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Eidolon wrote:

Jono77 wrote: Hi guys,if I reconstitute the HCG in bacteriostatic water how long can I keep it? And if I freeze it will that extend the life until the day I use it?


It's easier to keep it in powder form until you need it.


It comes in a ampule,one with the HCG and another with the liquid,I' want to draw 1ml of bac water from a 10ml vial and reconstitute it and draw it back into the vial,then if I need to freeze it I'll first draw it into the slin pin and then freeze..how long will the HCG be active in the vial at room temperature? Or should I freeze them?

I'm staring my HCG on Monday at 500iu 3x a week
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21 May 2016 18:21 - 21 May 2016 18:31 #199335 by Eidolon
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Jono77 wrote:
It comes in a ampule,one with the HCG and another with the liquid,I' want to draw 1ml of bac water from a 10ml vial and reconstitute it and draw it back into the vial,then if I need to freeze it I'll first draw it into the slin pin and then freeze..how long will the HCG be active in the vial at room temperature? Or should I freeze them?

I'm staring my HCG on Monday at 500iu 3x a week


If you're going to start on Monday, there's no need to freeze anything. HCG generally comes in 1500iu or 5000iu vials, with a matching 1ml amp of solvent. The "liquid" you refer to already is sterile water for reconstituting the powder. There is no need for you to use bac water unless you want to make the maths easier, or plan to store the HCG unfrozen for extended periods.

If you have a 1500iu vial reconstituted with 1ml of either the liquid it came with or your bac water, you need 33IU on a 100IU slin pin for each of your 500iu shots of HCG.

And if you have a 5000iu vial, each 10IU on a 100IU slin pin will be 500IU. It really is pretty simple maths.

Edit: Once you've squeezed the liquid into the vial, keep it in the fridge rather than the freezer, and draw from there. In case that's what you're asking. You don't need to freeze the reconstituted HCG unless you want to keep it for an extended period, in which case I wouldn't reconstitute it :D
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21 May 2016 19:23 #199336 by Jono77
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Thanks eidolon,it's 5000iu strength and yeah I'm using the bac water because once I've reconstituted the HCG I can't store it in the amp for 3 weeks and as a plus it makes it easier to do the math :D

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21 May 2016 19:52 #199337 by Eidolon
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Aah. If it's both in amps, use a 100IU slin pin to slowly drip the solvent into the hcg amp, swirl it gently for a minute, and then draw it back into the syringe.

Then you just pin 10IU from the slin syringe for every 500IU you need, and keep it capped between shots in the fridge.

Or you could draw 10x 10IU slin pins from the reconstituted amp if you think your belly will blunt one pin too much.

Keep everything in the fridge. Not freezer.

OR. You can take a 23g pin with a matching syringe, or whatever you have handy, and draw 1ml of bac water from your 10ml vial. Which you drip into the hcg amp, swirl, pull back, and put into your 10ml bac vial. Each ml is now worth 500iu, which you draw out with either as a full 100IU slin pin, or as 1ml on a normal syringe.
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21 May 2016 22:34 - 21 May 2016 22:34 #199338 by Killa
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@ Eidonlon

Seems like you know whats going on, with this. If you could please assist me as well.

Ok so there was no Ovidrel 250 so i got the HCG 5000IU comes with the 2ml Water & the tablet vial)

now it says i need to take 2 x 10MCG of the Ovidrel 250 for 13 days every 2nd day.

So i used that table you gave me and it says i should take 0.02MG in the slin pin. But that seems like such a little. when i started the cycle it sated 250IU that was pretty simple because it all worked out to 5000IU by the end. But that was every 5 days. So i just don't want to do this wrong....if you could please assist, because im completely lost now. Sigh.
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22 May 2016 05:11 - 22 May 2016 05:21 #199341 by Eidolon
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Okay. You've got 250mcg of Ovidrel. To get 10mcg you need 1/25th (10/250) of the reconstituted contents in the vial, regardless of how much solvent you add.

Using 2ml, you want 25x 10mcg shots (for a total of 250mcg), so draw 8 units (4 ticks) on a 100IU slin pin for each 10mcg.

2ml = 200IU. 25x8IU=200IU. 8IU=10mcg. 25 pins will get you to the 13 days, with one on the 13th day.

Hence each of the 25 shots will equal 200IU of your 5000IU HCG. 200IU is still 8 units of the slin pin. You're complicating things more than you need to, but if I tell you why, it might confuse you.
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22 May 2016 13:49 #199348 by Pyroclasm
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Eidolon wrote: Aah. If it's both in amps, use a 100IU slin pin to slowly drip the solvent into the hcg amp, swirl it gently for a minute, and then draw it back into the syringe.

Then you just pin 10IU from the slin syringe for every 500IU you need, and keep it capped between shots in the fridge.

Or you could draw 10x 10IU slin pins from the reconstituted amp if you think your belly will blunt one pin too much.

Keep everything in the fridge. Not freezer.

OR. You can take a 23g pin with a matching syringe, or whatever you have handy, and draw 1ml of bac water from your 10ml vial. Which you drip into the hcg amp, swirl, pull back, and put into your 10ml bac vial. Each ml is now worth 500iu, which you draw out with either as a full 100IU slin pin, or as 1ml on a normal syringe.


I would not inject with the same needle 10x from a hygiene perspective. I would advise to keep HCG in the freezer as it keeps better. When you want to inject to heat it up you hold it in your hand for 5 minste then it is good to go.

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22 May 2016 14:27 #199349 by Jono77
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Where's the "best" place to inject?..it will be the first time doing it myself,can I inject in my glute? Quad is also fine but I'm not comfortable with stomach injecting

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22 May 2016 17:46 - 22 May 2016 17:56 #199357 by Jono77
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Okay so I just want to get this right.. I will remove 1ml of bac water from its vial and reconstitute the HCG in its amp, once it's mixed I'll remove the HCG from the amp and put it in the 10ml bacteriostatic water vial. Once that is done for me to get 500iu in a 10ml vial I will draw 10iu in a slin pin?

Every time I think I've got my head around it I confuse myself again

Okay never mind I went through some old research I have and found my answer..
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22 May 2016 18:51 #199360 by Killa
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Im sorted now THANKS! Was just the 10MCG that confused me.

But i mean i can just do 2ml divided by 13. And thats what i need to do.... can i just shoot the 400iu in place of doing 2 x 200iu's a day? why does it state 2 x 10MCG. I just wanna shoot and get done with. or am i missing something?

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23 May 2016 02:53 #199381 by Eidolon
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Pyroclasm wrote: I would not inject with the same needle 10x from a hygiene perspective. I would advise to keep HCG in the freezer as it keeps better. When you want to inject to heat it up you hold it in your hand for 5 minste then it is good to go.


Agreed about the hygiene, although I know lots of people who reuse slin pins.

He's using bac water, so not really a need to freeze it, but won't do any harm.

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23 May 2016 05:12 #199383 by Jono77
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So I assume the glute or quad injection is fine? I'm not so confident or comfortable in shooting my gut

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