TRT Help needed

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14 Jun 2017 16:26 #210478 by FSU!!!
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Hi Guys

I have been battling with Low T now for a solid 2 years now and have seen many different specialists but seem to come to the conclusion that not many doctors are too clued up on HRT as I have had countless tests and still no real indication of what caused my Low T.

My History is as follows:

In my earlier days of training I played around with some gear being Nomatest 300, Sustanon 250, Winstrol and some pro hormones. When I took a cycle it was only one of the mentioned at a time (I really was dumb and young) I never took a proper PCT only used clomid twice. But then stopped everything and never touched anything for years and everything seemed cool until about 2 years ago I had a case of ED in the bedroom so I went for Tests and found out I suffered from Low T from there it went downhill as the mental aspect of things kills the sex drive and boner.

I have been for an MRI scan for the pituitary etc and they found nothing I have also had scans done on my prostate, heart etc and that was also all fine. The bloodwork I had done I shall try post here now.

The first doctor I saw just told me I was too stressed and that was the cause but called bullshit and saw another Endo he then believed that I was lying about being on gear so long ago and just prescribed me first nebido then tried a PCT of Clomid and Pregnyl and that seemed to work but then 3 months down the line everything dropped to low. The third doctor I saw didnt look at any labs and just said sorry you are broken and prescribed me nebido and said you will be on TRT for life.

So now my question is there any decent clued up doctors or specialists that can help with TRT or alternatively I shall get my own gear and start treating myself. The main thing is I am not sure what is causing my condition and would if possible like to treat the root cause rather than just try mask it but if it does come to the fact that I need TRT i am fine with that also I would like to just get some form of normalcy with my hormones as it affects my mood and training alot.

I am now 28 and this all started when I was 26 or I atleast only noticed it then

If anyone has any advice I would highly appreciate it

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14 Jun 2017 16:47 #210479 by FSU!!!
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Here are the last tests I had done:
26/10/2016
Test Total - 9.1 nmol/L
Sex Hor. Binding Globulin - 28.60nmol/L
Free Test - 192nmol/L

Prolactin was 6.9ng/ml (26/05/2016)

I havent had any latest tests as I had a child and funds have been non existent so I left my condition to look after the baby but now need to get myself sorted

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14 Jun 2017 18:22 #210481 by 00pump
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Are you over weight?

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14 Jun 2017 23:06 - 14 Jun 2017 23:06 #210490 by Furk
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I'm going to jump the gun and give you my story for comparison's sake.


Full time TRT patient here. Diagnosed with Secondary Hypogonadism. Fancy way of saying my pituitary is broken but nobody knows why. Did hCG therapy for 6 months, worked but after cessation my natural test production near picked up. Been on TRT since then, doctor prescribed Nebido but he's cool that I self administer Cypionate.

Things to consider about my case:
1) I was lean before, and when I was diagnosed with low T.
2) Diet before TRT was nutritious, frequently used multivitamins although suffered no deficiencies.
3) No chronic medication or substance abuse (sometimes used a proton pump inhibitor because of gastric issues).
4) Gave up alcohol about two years before diagnosed with low T. Never a big drinker before that. No family history of alcohol abuse or liver problems.
5) All other bloods and tests showed healthy (if not superb) levels. This includes everything from hormones, cholesterol, prostate, spinal biopsy, thyroid etc.
6) Cardiovascular fitness was good.
7) Blood pressure and heart rate was very good.
8 ) I had a rough and stressful job, doctors (and personal) belief that I had "adrenal burnout" (probably not a medical term lol).
9) My GP at the time was an idiot. Endocrinologist was exceptional, but couldn't find any cause. Finally, my urologist understood my situation easily but could also not pinpoint cause.
10) Did one Test Prop and Var cycle a bit more than one year before diagnosed with low T. Followed PCT meticulously.
11) Got low Test in (and still am) in my twenties.

Moral of the story:
You are not alone.
Some things are unpredictable and unexplained (to us at the present at least).
Karma doesn't exist, don't blame yourself. Perhaps you didn't get it from AAS usage. Perhaps you've never hurt a fly in your life, perhaps you donate to charities, have goods morals and respect your body. It means nothing, sometimes the human body is a lottery. Infant children get leukemia and some are born into a caste system they never can escape.

Advice:
You mentioned "doctor", no mention of a specialist (endocrinologist or urologist). If you did see one of those my apologies, perhaps they did know what they were talking about; otherwise go see someone who has a clue. Give HCG therapy a go for a while, if your test elevates you know your pituitary can produce the right hormones with the right triggers being sent to it. If not, that's (likely) where the problem is. If you spend some time on HCG and come off, and test levels remain normal, I guess your "cured". If not, you've got the same issue as I do. (Disclaimer: Your specialist will obviously explain what I talked about briefly. If s/he thinks there is a better route, fuck it, there might be, I'm not claiming to hold all the answers or know what's going on in everyone's bodies.)


Hope my soliloquy helped a bit mate. Best of luck and keep us updated.

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19 Jun 2017 09:54 #210551 by FSU!!!
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Nope not really I race Extreme Enduro and cant afford to be over weight.

Currently weighing in at 91kg and my height is about Six foot one. Had a bad accident in November where I lost a finger and picked up 7kg but lost that all when I was allowed to train again, could probably lose an extra kg or so

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19 Jun 2017 10:00 #210552 by FSU!!!
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@Furk Your whole story sounds almost exactly the same as mine. I have been to 2 different specialists being a Urologist as well as an Endo and both could not pin point anything.

The last doctor said it could just be Hormone disruptors in everyday life such as BPA's and what not but ya the biggest frustration has been that no one can actually point out the root cause of the problem.

So I wanted to see if anyone knows of a decent doctor or specialist that can help or would it be better to self presribe something like nebido and just monitor it as paying alot for someone to write a script is quite frustrating.

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19 Jun 2017 12:36 #210554 by Furk
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Which city are you based? If Admin approves, I can recommend a urologist.

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19 Jun 2017 12:56 #210555 by FSU!!!
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I am in Randburg

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19 Jun 2017 17:24 #210564 by Furk
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At least we are in the same province. Doctor is 58km (1h11m) away from you. Worth it? Remember, you can always ask a doctor you know or trust for a referral to a urologist.

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