Blood results, low test?

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06 Jun 2018 11:48 #216199 by pocketmuscle
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Hi gents.

I did some blood checks over the weekend and received results today.

My last cycle completed last year August. Consisting of test 500mg/week. Followed pct2 to the letter. Beginning of this year I noticed low energy and libido. Went for bloods and total test was extremely low (can't remember the exact number). I did another pct 2, which ended end of March. And I am still experience low libido and energy.

Me and the wife are trying to get pregnant, so my main focus is fertility. And then of course to up my test levels.

Below are my blood results:




All my levels are in range, but on the low side!?

Would you recommend me doing another pct, like pct3?
Or perhaps going on TRT including HCG?
And how would this affect my fertility?

Would appreciate your inputs.

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06 Jun 2018 12:16 #216201 by pocketmuscle
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Forgot to mention, 36 of age.

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06 Jun 2018 12:48 #216202 by 00pump
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If you wanting a baby then definitely a no go on TRT. Try just do PCT 1, no hCG. And extend the Tamoxifen for another month or two if need be.

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07 Jun 2018 10:22 #216218 by Rooi Bul 86
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Pump.

What if he did The pct 1 like you say and then also add Aromasin with the Nolvadex it worked for me in the past?

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07 Jun 2018 14:33 - 07 Jun 2018 14:33 #216225 by 00pump
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Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Pump.

What if he did The pct 1 like you say and then also add Aromasin with the Nolvadex it worked for me in the past?


Could assist for sure. Also giving estrogen a nice big reset.

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07 Jun 2018 16:00 #216226 by pocketmuscle
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Thank you Pump and RB!

Any other recommendations from MA and Pyro?

Would appreciate it.

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07 Jun 2018 18:32 - 07 Jun 2018 18:33 #216228 by 00pump
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Just know your readings are not that bad, you just need a bit of help to run that last mile over the finish line.

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07 Jun 2018 21:22 - 07 Jun 2018 21:24 #216229 by pocketmuscle
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00pump wrote: Just know your readings are not that bad, you just need a bit of help to run that last mile over the finish line.


Tx Pump.

So do you suggest the following:
Week 1 - 2: Clomid 50mg ED
Week 3 - 10: Nolvadex 20mg ED
Week 3 - 10: Aromasin 20mg EOD (not to completely eliminate all E2?)

And then perhaps week 11 - 14 using 20mg Nolvadex EOD to taper off?
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08 Jun 2018 04:44 #216230 by Rooi Bul 86
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Hi Pocket.

No bud look at PCT 3. You basicaly take out the HCG and run clomid as it is listed there and the Nolvadex and Aromasin as listed there. Take the Nolvadex and Adomasin ED. You do not need to taper Nolvadex or Aromasin the long half lives makes them "self taper" if I can put it that way.

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13 Jun 2018 02:10 #216269 by Pyroclasm
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pocketmuscle wrote: Thank you Pump and RB!

Any other recommendations from MA and Pyro?

Would appreciate it.


For me myour bloods look perfectly fine, nothing out of the ordinary. It's just the normal low FSH and LH causing low test. I would do two months Clomid @50mg EOD and Nolva @20mg EOD for 30 days. Immediately, you're gonna feel like a champion.

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13 Jun 2018 08:47 - 13 Jun 2018 08:49 #216276 by pocketmuscle
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Pyroclasm wrote:

pocketmuscle wrote: Thank you Pump and RB!

Any other recommendations from MA and Pyro?

Would appreciate it.


For me myour bloods look perfectly fine, nothing out of the ordinary. It's just the normal low FSH and LH causing low test. I would do two months Clomid @50mg EOD and Nolva @20mg EOD for 30 days. Immediately, you're gonna feel like a champion.


Tx Pyro,

I have already got myself some Clomid, Nolvadex and Aromasin.

As I was planning on PCT1 with the addition of Aromasin. As recommended with Pump and RB (thanks again guys!!)

Should I take the Clomid and Nolvadex together? Or use the Clomid for 2 months EOD and then only the Nolvadex EOD after that with the Aromasin?
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13 Jun 2018 09:32 #216278 by 00pump
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I don't like Clomid, and the Dr that wrote that protocol used Clomid to prep the testes but doesn't include it in the extended protocol. Hence it's a few days Clomid and then the Nolva.. And it's ED, not EOD.

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13 Jun 2018 09:39 #216279 by pocketmuscle
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00pump wrote: I don't like Clomid, and the Dr that wrote that protocol used Clomid to prep the testes but doesn't include it in the extended protocol. Hence it's a few days Clomid and then the Nolva.. And it's ED, not EOD.


Noted.

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13 Jun 2018 13:53 #216287 by pocketmuscle
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Do you guys think its worth spending extra on Vitamin D3?

I read that it increases one's test levels by a small fraction.

So was just wanting to know if its worth it or not while using clomid, nolvadex and aromasin?

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13 Jun 2018 14:19 #216288 by 00pump
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Staminogro and Longifolia, add that to your PCT. Just so you know, I was where you at, and I chatted with Doctori, and what I suggested for your PCT was what he suggested to me with the added to supplements I just mentioned. Just over a month into it, boom, my wife fell pregnant. So The protocol works..

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13 Jun 2018 14:35 #216289 by pocketmuscle
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00pump wrote: Staminogro and Longifolia, add that to your PCT. Just so you know, I was where you at, and I chatted with Doctori, and what I suggested for your PCT was what he suggested to me with the added to supplements I just mentioned. Just over a month into it, boom, my wife fell pregnant. So The protocol works..


Tx Pump.

Do you perhaps know of a product that contains a decent amount of Longfolia? A product that you perhaps usws before? As I have never seen a product containing only Longfolia.

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25 Jun 2018 18:29 #216413 by Pyroclasm
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00pump wrote: I don't like Clomid, and the Dr that wrote that protocol used Clomid to prep the testes but doesn't include it in the extended protocol. Hence it's a few days Clomid and then the Nolva.. And it's ED, not EOD.


Pump is team Nolva.
Pyro is team Clomid who has cookies and T-shirts and more fun. Jokes on a stick, my body loaths Nolva and I feel like ass when on it, then when switch to Clomid it's an immediate 180 and feel great.

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