SARMS CYCLE PCT

Morning,

I've just completed my first 8 week SARM cycle of LP RAD140 and OSTARINE. Had very good results with it.
Next cycle I'll be doing the same but adding LGD to the mix.

Went through a few threads and discussions on SARM PCT to find the best protocol.
Wanted to know, would it be best to run Clomid and Nolva
or just Arimistane? Aiming to do a PCT that's not overkill.

PCT can never be overdone.. I don't believe there is a need for Clomid, you could probably run Nolvadex at 20mg for 60 days. You can run it shorter but as with anything it's all guess work unless you doing blood work, which I strongly believe in.

Thanks 00pump,
I'll definitely be getting blood work done to check the levels. so you say rather nolvadex than arimistane?

RedHulk wrote: Thanks 00pump,
I'll definitely be getting blood work done to check the levels. so you say rather nolvadex than arimistane?

I have seen years of blood tests showing full recovery with Nolva. I have not personally seen a single recovery blood work on arimistane, so I can only advise on what I know works. Sometimes it isn't worth reinventing the wheel.

Thanks 00pump. Appreciate your advice bro.

Arimistane has absolutely no legit medical use as it has not even been through phase 1 clinical trials. It's purely sold as a get rich quick drug in the supplement industry. More bullshit. That's not to say it doesn't work at all. But why waste your money when there are drugs that are backed by science?

True, thanks Muscleaddict. I'll stick to old faithful Nolva.

00pump wrote: PCT can never be overdone.. I don't believe there is a need for Clomid, you could probably run Nolvadex at 20mg for 60 days. You can run it shorter but as with anything it's all guess work unless you doing blood work, which I strongly believe in.

Hi pump

Why did you recommend nolva only here without clomid?
I thought they were like synergistic pct drugs.

I say based on my current knowledge, Clomid should be used to increase FSH if that doesn't work use FSG (this is what is documented in literature at the moment), I personally don't respond well to it and my current recovery protocol is

One Ovitrell pen every 6 days, I split that up 1 3rd every 2nd day.

20mg Aromsin in the evening

20mg Tamoxifen

75iu Menopur 3x a week.

There is no cookiecutter PCT. If you did not start steroids until mid / late 20s you will recover much quicker than someone who has abused steroids at a young age.

My previous recovery was

714iu Ovitrell every second day

20mg Aromsin daily

20mg Tamoxifen

Natural testosterone boosters (if it's proven effective I was taking it)

And I had extremely high sperm count. The use of FSH this last time was to speed up the process due to starting testosterone for a few weeks and needing those signals immediately and not having to wait any additional weeks for the pituitary to switch back on.

Current research is even showing using HCG purely to aid in LH signaling which turns off with exogenous steroid use not only for intertesticular testosterone while on TRT or long cycles but other helps benefits. The dose and timing of this is currently not known or may vary from person to person, eg some might need 250iu every other day, some might require 2000iu+ once a week. In the next year or two more information will come about around this.

Thanks for the detailed response.
I was expecting something like; coz it was a very light cycle clomid not really needed, just nolva should generally be fine

Donatello wrote: Thanks for the detailed response.
I was expecting something like; coz it was a very light cycle clomid not really needed, just nolva should generally be fine

My advise, blood work prior, blood work after, work with the results. EVERYTHING else is guess work...

Some might be able to use nothing and be fine some might need a SERM, some might need HCG, some might need a stronger binding to the ER and use an AI, some might need help stimulating FSH, some might need a combination, there is no cookiecutter protocol.

00pump wrote: I say based on my current knowledge, Clomid should be used to increase FSH if that doesn't work use FSG (this is what is documented in literature at the moment), I personally don't respond well to it and my current recovery protocol is

One Ovitrell pen every 6 days, I split that up 1 3rd every 2nd day.

20mg Aromsin in the evening

20mg Tamoxifen

75iu Menopur 3x a week.

There is no cookiecutter PCT. If you did not start steroids until mid / late 20s you will recover much quicker than someone who has abused steroids at a young age.

My previous recovery was

714iu Ovitrell every second day

20mg Aromsin daily

20mg Tamoxifen

Natural testosterone boosters (if it's proven effective I was taking it)

And I had extremely high sperm count. The use of FSH this last time was to speed up the process due to starting testosterone for a few weeks and needing those signals immediately and not having to wait any additional weeks for the pituitary to switch back on.

Current research is even showing using HCG purely to aid in LH signaling which turns off with exogenous steroid use not only for intertesticular testosterone while on TRT or long cycles but other helps benefits. The dose and timing of this is currently not known or may vary from person to person, eg some might need 250iu every other day, some might require 2000iu+ once a week. In the next year or two more information will come about around this.

Hey 00Pump interested in this. I assume this is for you who is on HRT yes? Would you please explain some more the thought behind every idea?