Inja wrote:This should be a link to the thread here where this taper was discussed.
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum?func=view&catid=2&id=8898#8914
TOPIC: Diluting Oil Based Steroids i.e. Test E
And this is the link to the original protocol I think:
www.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/sport...est_taper_protocol_1
Not gonna go back and read it but I still have my same issues with it. Would love to hear real world feecback though...
Ja, me too. I could hardly find a negative comment from anyone who tried it.
This is the protocol:
Following the cycle use a 4-6 week waiting period also refered to as 'stasis period' by somebody.
4 weeks if you are using esters such as propinate.
esters such as cypionate and enanthate are in the middle - 4-6 week waiting period - your decision as it is a tough call. I prefer more weeks then less.
6 week waiting period for esters such as decanoate -i.e. deca.
During the waiting period you should taper off any aromatase inhibitors you are using - basically get rid of all drugs in your system besides testosterone.
Once the waiting period is over, then gradually reduce the dose weekly for 6 weeks untill you are off.
I preffer injecting enanthate twice per week as my ester of choice. But you can use propinate or sustenon as well, just devide it into 3 doses per week.
Once the taper starts, that is around the time you would start using a serm if you are going to use one.
You can taper without a serm and still be successfull doing so.
the research showed no hpta suppression while using a serm and low dose testosterone - 100mg per week
It also showed no hpta suppression with no serm use while using 25mg of testosterone enanthate per week.
So as i said it is possible to taper with our without a serm successfully.
If you are using HCG during the cycle to maintain testicular size and function - you must stop HCG at the end of your cycle and by hcg free throughout the waiting period.
So to put it all together using testosterone enanthatate dose split into biweekly injections:
Cycle ends, stop hcg if using,
start Waiting peroid:
Week 1-6 or 1-4: Test E 100mg per week
Taper off Arimidex or femara fully by week 3
Taper phase:
week 1-6
mg/ week: 80mg / 60mg/ 50mg/ 40mg/ 30 mg/ 20mg.
Start your Serm (nolva or clomid) at the begining of the taper if you choose to do so.
If you decide to use Masteron,
Then you use 50mg Test E, and 50mg Masteron E per week or masteron prop, with test prop for the waiting period, and keep the ratio the same as you taper down as well (1:1, with the starting totol mg amount 100mg).
No Serm use is needed and i have found libido to be even better when using this mix.
the masteron acts as an anti E, and the DHT enhances libido. The masteron itself at that amount does not subtract from hpta function more than it adds libido enhance ment, and estrogen control.
The masteron is the only drug that i have found to fit the bill perfectly for this purpose, but you can try aromasis as well, but I don't think it would have the same positive effects on libido.
As for using other drugs during your pct that may enhance workouts and maintain size...
there are a wide variety of supplements out there that have no negative effect on the hpta.
As for other drugs, some options would be:
IGF, MGF, HGH....
Clenbutoral,
and Insulin which I highly do not recommend.
As Inja said, the forum where all this is thrashed out is here
tnation.tmuscle.com/free_online_forum/sp...est_taper_protocol_1
Sorry for the long post
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